before they were defederated by beehaw due to trolling issues, thenthedonlald showed up, and now exploding heads? what is happening right now?
Sh.it is turning into a Nazi bar. The alt right trolls saw a weakness and they’re now brigading the hell out of this instance. The Dude seems to be trying to fence sit on extremely vitriolic transphobia and refusing to listen to the trans folks who are trying to warn everyone that nothing good comes from engaging with a certain level of asshole. The only productive way forward at this point is to defederate exploding heads but at this point I don’t think it’s going to happen so I’m just going to grab some popcorn and watch as his great Democratic experiment meets the reality of discourse on the Internet.
Wait, so who is joining this instance a lot? Do I need to start sorting by local new posts? I haven’t seen much of anything.
Literally where? I’ve been browsing fairly regularly for at least the last week or so and haven’t seen anything even slightly Nazi-ish.
Also the internet is not a physical space, the way the work is not the same.
Reminds me of a shopkeeper who just told a shoplifter known and flagged by other shopkeepers to leave as soon as she came in.
One of the benefits of a federated social media network is being able to pick an instance that aligns with your own values. If you’d prefer that the admins defederate certain content that isn’t defederated by this instance, have you considered using an instance that more closely aligns with your views? As long as they haven’t defederated this instance, you’ll still be able to interact with any users and communities on this instance that you don’t personally block.
I sincerely hope this doesn’t sound like I’m asking you to leave. One of the reasons I’m on this instance is that everyone is welcome to make an account, which feels very inclusive to me.
The admin gave democratic power to the users, the users voted in majority in favor of defederating with the alt-right instance, the admin is waiting for God knows what to respect the will of the users and meanwhile the place is getting overtaken…
Overtaken? Where? I’m subscribed to like the most popular subs in this instance and I haven’t seen anything even slightly related to any of this shit at all.
How many threads about defederation bad when only one vote happened on the subject and it concerned an alt right instance? Always started by people who have dubious post history or no post history.
This instance could then have got defederated by more instances because a T_D community was allowed to exist on it.
have you considered using an instance that more closely aligns with your views?
This sounds like a lot of homework. I want to interact with people, not worry about whether my chosen server is and will remain acceptable to every clique.
It only takes a little bit of homework. When I made the jump I was able to find out pretty easily that beehaw wouldn’t be right for me because of their views that moderators should be heavily involved.
One other late thought on this. Lemmy advocates like this one have told me that “It doesn’t matter which instance you use. You’ll still be able to interact with communities (subreddits) on all other instances, regardless of which instance your account lives.” Doesn’t defederation prevent interaction between two instances, making the above statement false?
I think it would be harmful if defederation became commonplace and fragment the fediverse. On the other hand, I don’t see any issue with there being “niche” instances which have a specific demographic of users they want to serve, and I don’t see any harm in them defederating with other niche instances. Lemmygrad and exploding heads seem like a good example, I’ve heard they’ve defederated each other. I don’t think that affects the overall fediverse too much because the users of those instances would probably block or brigade the other instance anyway. There wouldn’t be any positive interaction between them, so nothing of value has been lost.
Basically, I think it would be ideal if it’s only the “niche” instances that use defederation as a moderation tool, and most instances only defederate for spam or illegal content.
