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    My job was broken in to. They sent a detective. He looked around and told us there was basically zero chance he’d catch the guy.

    I found a cigarette butt outside. He said “It could be anybody”. I said “nobody here smokes”. He said “even if it’s his, there’s little chance it’s a DNA match.”

    To his credit, the detective took the cigarette butt and tested it. There was a DNA match to a guy living in our small town who’d been in jail three times for robbery meaning the cops knew exactly who he was and what he did for a living but weren’t doing anything to stop him.

    When they went to his house they found everything of ours that he couldn’t sell.

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    Really mind blowing how few crimes are actually solved. I’ve had real world experience of being a robbery victim and there was absolutely no attempt at solving it.

    Someone told me if you have a problem and call the police, now you have two problems.

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      I was robbed when I worked as a cashier. I literally did all the work and found the dudes name because he came in earlier and paid with a card and signed his name. Gave them his name and they didn’t care. Nothing was ever done, I still see the dude walking around frequently.

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        We had a guy come in for training. His first day. During lunch he left, slashed a tire on every car and smashed two windows.

        We had him on tape and we had all his info because he was just hired.

        Cops wouldn’t do shit about it. Didn’t even look for the guy.

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          Many years ago, before identity theft was a thing, my mom (who live with me), had our mail stolen. That day was the day that Oregon was sending out our “kicker checks”, those are refund checks from the Oregon Dept of Revenue, and also the day that my mom’s bank sent out her bank statement.

          We found out because I got a letter from the Oregon Dept of Revenue that my kicker check was cashed at a different amount than it was issued. I did get a replacement, but I pointed out to the Oregon Dept of Revenue that the kicker check did have my social security number on it. They agreed and stated that will be the last year that will be a thing.

          My mom fared worse, since she had a bank statement that was stolen. The thief went to an office supply store where they sold paper check templates and used the bank account number that the bank helpfully included in full on the bank statement, and printed out fake checks and wrote several at WalMart. To this day my mom is banned from writing checks there.

          I never did get the police to care. Identity theft was not a thing at time. They flatly stated that they were not going to even write a report because I was getting a replacement check, so there was no crime.

          That never did make sense. If my car gets stolen and the insurance company gets me another one, the thief, if caught, will get charged with something.

          Cops will often not do jack shit if it means they have to actually get off their fat mattress and work.

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            Next time something like this happens, report it to USPSIS, they’re much more serious about investigating mail crimes (which this falls under since they stole your mail), and they don’t fuck around.

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            Couple of years ago, I received a package from the FBI which contained a number of bank statements and DMV letters that apparently had been recovered in Florida, clear across the country from where I live. These were letters dated less than a month before.

            Apparently the FBI were investigating some identity theft, and found thousands of people’s mail and other identification at this place in Florida. And then they sent back the material to the various victims. Luckily, I never found any fake accounts or anything in my name but that was pretty crazy.

            So apparently the FBI are still doing some work…

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          Yeah the dude who robbed me didn’t wear a mask and you could clearly see his face on the tape. They didn’t care.

          I’m sorry that happened to you.

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    Over the past decade, “consistently less than half of all violent crime and less than twenty-five percent of all property crime were cleared…

    The response to a car break in is always, just call your insurance company. Imagine if they took it seriously and used forensic tools. Most car breakins are done by a small number of the same people.

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    They’ve basically became untrained social workers who are terrible at their jobs. They spend lots of time dealing with mental illness and substance abuse issues and they think those can be solved with violence.

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      Not even that. Read the article. They spend 11% of their time responding to calls. The rest of the time they’re harassing people which are 50% of the time minorities.

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      They spend lots of time dealing killing people with mental illness and substance abuse issues and they think those can be solved with violence.

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        Usually only if they aren’t white. If they’re mentally ill an white, they still might get roughed up and tasered, but they usually reserve the gun for darker skin tones.

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      Yes, social workers.

      ON THE GROUND! NOW! DO AS I SAY!

      Cops are also good at spending tons of money on stuff for themselves.

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      Some cities have been sued for doing that. You can’t face your accuser in court if your accuser is a computer.

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      Red light cameras, sure. It can be done fairly - not that it is everywhere.

      Speed cameras just trap people new to an area. The people who live in an area learn to avoid them and thus they don’t stop habitual speeders who are a danger. Plus they can’t be everywhere.

      The bias needs to be taken out of it. Police can’t seem to stop themselves from racial profiling. Its like a compulsion.

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        Gridlock cameras can be added to red light cameras, also reducing congestion policing costs.

        Speed cameras trap people new to an area.

        Or they could just, not speed? And speed cameras can be everywhere. They cost up to $50k to deploy and collect to 2k+ fines per year (based in my location, this obviously varies wildly), so they run net positive. Rotating locations can also get after the habits of locals, though that’s the 50k cost, I’d guess statics are cheaper.

        If immediate reduction is most important than habit changing over time (i.e. a school zone or highway transition) speed linked red lights can achieve the effect. Such to say, if you drive over the limit, the light turns red. This forces you to stop and pisses off everyone behind you, providing social pressure. These are only in the pilot stage, so I don’t know the real deployment costs.

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          Speed traps are called speed traps because the limit suddenly drops like 20-30 mph in a very short distance. Saying “just don’t speed” completely ignores how speed traps work and why they exist .

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            Just realised this is a US politics forum, my insights my not be useful.

            Speed cameras in my region require at least one warming sign and a sign on the camera itself, yet they still catch people (myself included…)

            The short distance limit dropping sounds like a failure in road design if cars aren’t naturally lowering speeds due to the changing streetscape.

            Regardless, the point of enforcement (and the rules they informed) should be based on keeping roads safe, not “trapping” people. I’m sorry you have to go through that.

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          But I want to drive 65 in a 30 zone! It’s a conspiracy by the deep state agenda 21 liberal fascist police to prevent me from doing that!

          /S

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      Behind the Bastards did a six part special on the origins of the police called Behind the Police. It is very good, highly recommend.

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    The article specifically mentions deputies, and how they don’t spend time on violent crime, but the article never mentions ONCE, detectives, whose sole job is investigating violent crime. I’m not pro-police in any way, but… yeah. Also it seems like this article was written by an angsty teenager with lines like:

    The departments were mostly non-responsive to my questions.

    Riverside Sheriff Chad Bianco said the data – which is self-reported – is flawed. All four departments declined to answer specific questions about how officers spend their time, and didn’t provide contradictory information.

    I’m all for criticizing the police, let’s just write it a bit better next time, huh?

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      This is all fairly standard information for reportage involving coverage of an institution or organization–i.e., noting that they were contacted regarding the report, asking for a response, and detailing any pertinent information from the response. In this case, the response did not provide any further information on the report. What are you taking issue with? The comma splice?

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    Police in my town spend a significant amount of time at the scenes of car accidents. I wonder what percentage of their time?

    Their priority should be on crime and accident response and prevention and I feel like it is in my small town. I don’t know how this compares to police in larger cities, which makes studies like these valuable.

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    I remember once my car got stolen. I reported it, and the police came to my house and accused me of stealing it. I was like “why the fuck would I do that.” Which they responded by threatening to make me take a polygraph test. When I was like “okay, fine, let’s do it” they decided to leave. I didn’t get my car back until it was in the impound, and I had to pay 200 dollars to get it back (?!?)

    This whole experience is what made me truly realize that the police don’t do fuck all for working class people. They’re just there to take your money. Fuck those useless cops, and fuck the system that makes me pay when my car gets stolen.

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    So traffic violations are something we no longer want to enforce then? Nearly 43000 deaths in 2021 from automobiles… https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/traffic-crash-death-estimates-2022

    When 3/4 of traffic stops are warnings you know most of them are just the typical person making dumb mistakes since warnings are typically only given to people with no recent record.

    No idea why “resonable suspicion” crimes are such a big focus.

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      Better roads help prevent crashes. People won’t change just because they got a ticket. “Drive as fast as you can afford” is a warning I got when learning to drive. If all it is is a $300 ticket there are people who are more inconvenienced from being stopped than paying the fine. People don’t care about car crashes.

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      Why does a traffic stop need to be done by a man with a gun, body armor, and the authority to kill?