profane language is the word ‘fuck’.

this is not yelling ‘fuck’ at the top of your lungs, but more like ‘aah, fuck’, meaning why do things have to be this complicated? or, why didn’t coworker X did his job as he was supposed to? Why is this documentation not in order?

Have you ever been fired over this? reprimanded at work?

I use ‘fuck’ a lot, not to intimidate anyone, but each time something bothers me, I could as well use ‘come on!!’ but ‘fuck’ comes to me more naturally.

If I get a written warning, is this a reason good enough to start looking for employment elsewhere?

To those of you not in America. Is it different where you are?

  • johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world
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    Work in software project management. People swear pretty regularly. The higher up in the hierarchy you go, the more they swear. If a job gave me a warning for that I might leave because they treat their employees like children.

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    Haha yes. Normally I don’t swear at work. After college my first job was as a women’s shoe salesmen at Macy’s. I’m a terrible salesman but whatever. Around one of the holidays I was closing and we had one or two callouts so I was all alone and we were slammed. I had one guy, I wonder if he was a company exec, wander by at one point and say to me that the area was embarrassing and I should be ashamed or something to that effect. But the all of the customers left I did my best but couldn’t clean up all of the shoes before the store closed. I left a note that said sorry for the clusterfuck on the register. Well the store manager had to open I think because of a callout again and saw the note. I got a minor reprimand, and she said she was surprised to learn I was the one who wrote the note heh. Ended up getting fired later, but that was because of my undiagnosed a at the time adhd and often being late

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    I might die if I couldn’t cuss while working. I’d just fucking explode.

    I cuss during job interviews, both as the interviewer and applicant.

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    The difference is between cursing and cursing AT someone.

    “The garage door broke.” “Ah, fuck.” - Fine “You fuck.” - Not acceptable

    If you get a written warning, it’s probably time to start looking for a new job regardless.

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    I’m a professional and I conduct myself like one at work. Your coworkers have the right to work in a non-hostile environment, and believe it or not, some people consider profanity to be hostile. Plus, there are more effective ways to communicate your thoughts in a professional environment than through profanity. I’ll occasionally swear with a coworker I’m close with if we’re one-on-one, but never in a group setting. Cursing is expected - almost mandatory - in some careers such as a restaurant kitchen, or a construction site, but I don’t work in that sort of environment anymore.

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    I’m the Forman at my metal shop… If you’re not swearing in front of customers I don’t give a fuck.

    As long as you keep a cool head and pay attention to who’s in the building, I’ll let you get away with most things

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      Back when I worked pizza, that was the rule. But I was able to train myself, and neither the boss nor customers knew what “ОПА БЛЯТЬ!” meant when they heard it from the back of the shop lol.

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    If I get a written warning, is this a reason good enough to start looking for employment elsewhere?

    To those of you not in America. Is it different where you are?

    Germany here. We have explicit laws protecting workers.

    If the company wants to terminate your contract, then there are only a limited number of specific reasons that are allowed. And then they must observe a notice period usually (1-2 months). The worker can easily go to court against it (costs are moderate) to have it checked.

    If they want to fire you immediately (all subsidiaries of foreign corporations usually want that, and most of the German big corpos too), they can suspend you from working, but you still get your pay until the end of the notice period, or you can make a termination agreement that ends the contract immediately and you get all that money (plus maybe a little more, negotiable) at once.

    And there is another way: if you have severely violated your duties, then they can terminate you immediately, without paying any longer.

    But it is only with very serious violations, where they can argue that it isn’t tolerable for the company to have to endure you any longer. Many such events actually go to court afterwards, so they really have to be careful to do it right.

    If the violation was not so severe, they can give you an official warning, usually in writing. You can also go to court against the warning, and the court can nullify it, if it was wrongful.

    If you have received a warning and it was valid and afterwards you do the same violation again, then they can also terminate you immediately. And again, you can go to court to have it checked, like above.

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    At my company, they used to be a lot more tolerant of it, but we had exactly one person complain about excessive use of coarse language and then HR cracked the whip. They still don’t really care that much about using swear words when just interacting in person with other people, as long as it’s not bothering anybody else, but they heavily police our work chat to make sure that all of our messages are above the board in terms of professional conduct. Which makes sense, I can’t really argue against the logic that the work chat should be a professional setting where you can communicate your thoughts and feelings without having to resort to using profanity. Sometimes people have to be reminded to not use profane language, but they never call anybody out specifically, they just send out “reminder” messages whenever they see it and usually the person who is responsible knows not to keep it up or else there will be a more direct reprimand.

    It would be hard for me to not sometimes utter “fuck” under my breath while I’m at work, but if my bosses were concerned about it, I would just start channeling that into more work-appropriate language.

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    the profanity flies frequently at my place of work. we do give writeups if our employees are saying that in front of customers.

    except for me, because I don’t curse (out loud). in fact if I start doing it everyone around me would actually be worried if I was okay.

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    I once got fired for changing the title of my personal homepage of our ticketing software to “Fuck this fucking shithole”. Bosses found out when they cloned my account for testing while I was on vacation.

    In their defense, it was pretty stupid of me to do that. In my defense, fuck that fucking shithole.

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    My boss told me verbally “don’t call your colleague a fascist by email or anything else that leaves a record”, so that was nice of him.