“he does exactly that- teach and control them.”

So your belief is that jesus teaches christians to rape children and murder people. Weird take, but it does sound christian.

If you pretend jesus preaches pedophilia, violence and greed – I guess he does promote incest when lot fucks his daughters - then he is a pretty bad master, since some christians have sex with their own children and murder people but some don’t.

jesus has no control over Christians.

On hoarding wealth:

Many self-professed Christians hoard wealth, defying their book rule that "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Jesus, terrible teacher since all his greedy disciples are hoarding wealth in direct defiance of him. He has no control over his disciples.

“the bible doesn’t teach these things”

Quotes provided above praise the selfishness of men, misogyny and dominion over women, and the christian righteousness of slavery.

When you worship that book or its writers, you are worshiping incest, selfishness, misogyny and slavery, among other “sins”.

“we sing amazing grace”

does not help all the kids christians raped, hospitals bombed or the people dying every hour from hoarded christian wealth.

This is the difference between the real world, where christians regularly harm people, and a novel like the bible, which you are pretending does not include its own direct quotes about slavery. Which is crazy, because the bible praises and promotes slavery and slave owners a LOT.

“I doubt you’ve read the bible.”

doubt away thomas. you seem very unfamiliar with the christian bible.

or you’re pretending the christian bible doesn’t promote incest, slavery, misogyny and selfishness despite direct biblical quotes.

I’m quoting relevant, accurate passages and dealing with the text honestly, you either haven’t read the christian bible or are pretending you haven’t read it because you are aware how embarrassing and immoral it is to worship slavery and incest.

To be fair, It is very christian of you to hide from the reality and consequences of your professed faith and ignore the actual text.

“jesus is a perfect master. he is patient.”

Patient is not perfect. A perfect master teaches and controls his disciples perfectly. jesus does not teach and control his disciples. His disciples hurt and kill people, they hoard wealth.

jesus is a bad master.

“No, it isnt”

Adherents of a philosophy, in practice(in practical application, or the “real world”), define how that philosophy interacts with the world.

Think of all the different christian sects defining and defending different perspectives of the same words, harming and killing others over their own confusion and fear.

“christians” define christianity and how christianity exists in the world.

“Not, we don’t”

The christian bible glorifies slavery as righteous. You worship that book.

“No, it isnt”

Slavery according to the christian bible:

“All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect”

“Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them,”

“Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything”

The Bible glorifies slavery as righteous and christian.

According to the christian bible, It is christian to own slaves and for those slaves to be willing slaves to their masters.

But it’s one silly book among millions, you don’t have to worship selfishness, misogyny and slavery if you choose not to.

“…cannot define an ideology by how it’s adherents act”

An ideology is, in practice, defined by its adherents.

“…humans are corrupt and wild…”

correct, jesus is not a perfect master

“are you accusing me…”

I wasn’t, but you do admire masters and worship a book glorifying slavery.

“Slave owning isn’t righteous”

Owning slaves is righteous according to the christian bible.

Time to scrutinize your values.

the christian bible is all about fearing retribution for your actions instead of making moral choices and positively affecting the world through good will and critical thinking.

it is christian to own slaves and to be a master to your slaves according to the christian bible, what you see as the word of the christian god. you are defying the christian god by claiming owning slaves is not righteous.

“It’s not about owning slaves or worshipping fear”

By its own text, the christian bible is a book about worshiping fear and glorifying slavery.

but that’s okay because it’s just a book, one of millions, and there’s a much bigger, and real, world out there with better lessons you can learn from.

1. “Jesus clearly states that it’s not our place to carry out a death penalty.”

and still christians have always and continue to carry out the death penalty.

2. “jesus is…the perfect master…”

a. jesus is an imperfect master: his flock is full of pedophiles, murderers and rapists.

b. being a perfect slave master is not good for the slaves. You may aspire to owning slaves, but that doesn’t make owning slaves admirable or righteous.

2 again: “…died for mankind.”

jesus was here a few years and then lives in paradise forever in your book. his suffering was brief and insignificant relative to eternal life.

Important to note that all the evidence we have supports the christian bible being a fictional story, largely made up and revised over the years to create a myth to subjugate people like yourself. It’s an interesting piece of creative writing, but there are limits to how far you should base your real life on a book about owning slaves and worshiping fear that inspired one of the largest and most harmful cults in history.

god’s answers:

1. “who carries out the punishment?” christ and/or Christians

2. “What is god’s instruction to the husband?” To be the master

next two instead of 3 and 4:

1 again. “Who are sinners?” Those who defy jesus.

2 again. “…if you kept reading…much greater burden on the husband…” i’ve read the bible in full, there is no “greater burden” put on the master.

“Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart”

Sounds reeeal tough for the slave owners, having all that respect and sincerity from their slaves…no, it is not more difficult for a man to go on a date with his wife than it is for a wife to be eternally damned for not cooking her husband dinner.

The eternal damnation is a greater burden.

your bible is a cherry tree.

I was worried there were too many quotes for you and removed a few, but I’ll simplify it further:

Women must obey every desire of their husband, according to the word of god(cooking dinner, for example). Disobeying the word of god is punishable by death.

1, 2.

Love that you’re like “we all know shrimp sends you to christian hell, but wife discipline? Seems farfetched!”

Corinthians, ephesians, most books of the Bible reiterate that women must submit to their husbands:

“Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.”

And to not submit to their husbands is to go against God.

“But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.”

And guess what happens if your husband asks you for dinner and you say no?

“So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.”

Eve’s decision to prioritize her own desires over God’s instructions led to disastrous consequence including physical death and eternal obeisance.

“Your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you.”

“Genesis 2:18-24 “And the lord god said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him”

Christian women are servants to men, and if they defy men, they defy god. Through all of every version of the bible, the Christian punishment for defiance is death.

Why?

“For the wages of sin is death”.

Whats that?

Over 5 years for me too, and i actually called them up to ask if they were a scam the first month because it was so easy to sign up and cheap for unlimited data.

They said “no” and i said “okay”.

Nope! Visible is owned by Verizon but fortunately offers different services and functions separately.

Human customer service, remote setup, actual unlimited plans, 20 bucks a month, no contracts.

Visible is functionally different and a better customer experience than verizon and other providers in every way, they just get to use verizon networks.

Visible with unlimited data and hotspots: more versatile, cheaper and less time-consuming than dealing with either of those fuckers.

You mean the independent source I provided several messages ago you’re trying hard not to acknowledge?

You’ve got to learn personal and community responsibility sooner or later. You can make wild claims, but since they’ve already been disproved, you’re going to have to provide evidence eventually.

This is kind of what I’m wondering about. Countless warehouses full of used half functional video cards.

This is why you should provide a source, your numbers and associated assumptions are incorrect:

Chatgpt has estimated revenue of 1.3 billion, not 13 billion, neither of which are remotely significant as revenue streams relative to cost.

That’s the thrust of my opening paragraph, and then you appear to have taken up my drop in the bucket analogy, so i guess we’re on the same page now.

Yes; the included source and explanatory paragraph above in the same comment you are referencing.

Would you care to provide any evidence for your speculation that people are willing to pay enough for AI to sustain its costs?

Nope, you’ll certainly need a source to back that speculation up.

Half a billion people are “using” AI and the total llm market cap is a few billion. On average, users may be willing to pay up to 50 cents a month for inaccurate word association.

Not even a drop in the buckets companies need to fill up with everything they’re spending just on advertising, not to mention infrastructure, utility and upgrade costs.

People are statistically not willing to sustainably pay for llms, even if we assumed the rosy predictions of 20x LLM market caps in a decade.

Devil’s advocate: Increased AI cash flow could occur if people don’t realize their ai “search results” are paid advertisements, and considering longstanding obliviousness to directed advertising and the recent abolishment of US consumer rights…it could happen.

Chatgpt is constantly losing money, public surface-level interest won’t matter much when the capital runs out and they’re still accruing significant debt without any revenue.

A direct retelling wouldn’t be allowed to air. Murdering your wife in Christ’s name for not cooking you dinner, divinely owning slaves as an entitled Christian, lobster sending you to christian hell; the production wouldn’t get very far.

Awesome, you got it!

I’ve also added the state programs information to my original comment, so I’m glad you brought it up.

I was kind of blown away when i first found about this and got into a long talk with a ranger who explained it all to me, so I certainly understand your skepticism.

Up until that point, I literally knew nobody who cut down their own Christmas trees, and now a few of my friends also get their own trees every year.

6 foot trees have fairly thin trunks, so all you need is any trail saw, I’ve even used a hatchet, and you’ll harvest the tree in a manner of minutes.

“if vitamins were effective, they’d use them for beating children!”

You’re misunderstanding the use of debate.