• CHINESEBOTTROLL@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    failed attempts

    They didn’t fail. I mean you can criticize the ussr, but it was not capitalist

    which were sabotaged by capitalists

    What a weird thing to say. The USSR had sovereign control over the largest country in the world by far + a lot of allies. The capitalists can’t even get rid of north Korea. Its not the capitalists, the system is just shit

    the need to rebel is the problem

    I mean its fine to rebel, but if your goal is communism I will bet on another case of “tHatS nOT rEaL coMMUnIsM”

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      1 year ago

      Communism doesn’t include a hierarchy of power enforced by violence. The two concepts are antithetical. The USSR was somewhere between capitalism and fascism.

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            1 year ago

            Ok, can you “educate” me why I need to get rid of my private property?

            And fascists practiced economic policies of “corporatism”, not capitalism

      • CHINESEBOTTROLL@lemm.ee
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        Communism doesn’t include a hierarchy of power enforced by violence

        Very convenient, since nothing will ever meet this standard, so you will be able to say “that’s not communism” for the rest of your life. Actually sounds like the definition on anarcho capitalism

        The two concepts are antithetical

        Maybe to you, but many of the people in power at the time believed they were on the way to communism

        USSR was somewhere between capitalism and fascism

        I know of two common definitions of capitalism: “a system mostly organized around a profit-motive” and “a system in which individuals are mostly free to enter into consensual contracts”. I don’t see how the USSR is close to either of these. It was closer to fascism, tho there are also large differences

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          “Nothing will ever meet this standard” ~CHINESEBOTTROLL

          If CHINESEBOTTROLL says it, then it must be true.

          The two concepts are antithetical, even if the ignorant and corrupt claim it for themselves. Modern Christianity is antithetical to the Gospels of Christ, and that remains the case even as America slides into Christofascism. Fascists have always been steeped in irony because their core beliefs are based in the ignorance of ego.

          You having an ignorant concept of capitalism doesn’t have any bearing on reality, except that it causes you to ignore the atrocities of the system that keeps you fat and happy.