• Z_Poster365 [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    12 days ago

    if I’m a Polish nationalist, why would I want to arm banderites, of all people?

    A great question for all of your Polish nationalist friends and government, who all support the banderites.

    Turns out your hatred for Russia supersedes your own self interests, so it goes with nationalism

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      12 days ago

      Or maybe it’s not say 60 million Slavs who are wrong, and you might be? Just a thought experiment -would we consider we might, you know - living here, better understand our self-interest than you do? Ever crossed your mind?

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        12 days ago

        if you understood your own self interest the USSR would still be around. It’s clear you have reactionaries and befuddled idiots running the show and the dominant ideology is the ideology of the ruling class. You’ve been colonized by the west and you have a false consciousness. You have not decolonized your mind.

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          Oh yeah, if workers didnt strike that they need to be able to eat, and a “communist” government wouldn’t be sending tanks on them the Soviets would still be strong. I admire that logic. Just remind me please, who were the soviets meant to be representing?

          It’s clear you have reactionaries and befuddled idiots running the show and the dominant ideology is the ideology of the ruling class.

          Usually is. But then on the Ukrainian front lines you have everyone from normies to literal banderites, to anarchists.

          And in every surrounding Slavic country, apart for one controlled by a pro-russian govt, there is massive support for the Ukrainian war effort over any political divisions. With the exception of tankie sects witch are microscopic around here, because people actually remember the regimes and what they did, and the far-right which is simply sponsored by Kremlin, or just at this level of being bootlickers cheering for any strongman.

          You have not decolonized your mind.

          Again you know and understand shit about the history and the region. Poland used to be a imperialist state at some point (actually took Moscow btw - just a fun fact regarding your attempt at fearmongering). But majority of Polish population were slaves to the gentry. Then as a “nation” we progressed to being occupied for 150 years (Russia, Prusia, Austro-Hun’s), went thought two world wars, winning a war against CCCP in between, got occupied by nazis and soviets in the beginning of WW2 and ended up de-facto occupied by CCCP after WW2. So the colonialism that’s in the culture is not a western one - that we have since say 35 years at best. This generation has little to say in Polish politics as of yet. But the colonialism we’re de-colonizing as a society is the old Polish and the Russian one, my dear friend. And we’re going strong at it, which seems to be your problem exactly.