• punseye@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Lol pretty much every American company should be added to a similar list given how deep they are in the pockets of CIA, etc

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      1 day ago

      Cool whataboutism, this article is about a Chinese company and China, not about America or its mil companies.

      It’s not like it’s an insult to say Tencent is involved with the Chinese military, why are you so defensive? Do you think you’re sharing unknown info? I think we’re all quite aware of the US MIC.

      Do you seriously believe China and every other country doesn’t keep similar lists already? This is basic ass shit.

      Every time anything about China is posted someone like you comes running to tell us all “b-b-but America too!!!” as if that changes a damn thing in regards to the discussion topic at hand.

      • hark@lemmy.world
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        16 hours ago

        Pointing out hypocrisy is not whataboutism. Whataboutism is when you bring up a separate topic as a criticism to distract from the original topic. For example, if you make fun of my cooking and I bring up your drawing skills in response, that’s whataboutism. If you suck at cooking and yet bring up me sucking at cooking, that’s just pointing fingers and trying to paint that as a negative for someone else when you possess the same deficiency.

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          34 minutes ago

          I’m sure the US military already has a list of its own operations. Where is the hypocrisy?

        • humble peat digger@lemm.ee
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          14 hours ago

          Imo whataboutism is not even a real thing.
          That’s just a dumb label made up for use against ussr it was just never intended to be used against US lol. But pointing out that ur opponent has ulterior motives is properly legal

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            6 hours ago

            True, and maybe I’m playing a losing game by arguing within that context, but I did want to point out that even under those conditions the “logical fallacy” doesn’t fit.

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        1 day ago

        They’re getting downvoted for an unrelated comment not because they don’t believe America has companies that contribute to their mil industrial complex.

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          1 day ago

          that is its own topic, bringing it up here is trying to shift attention away from the topic at hand. Its also topic that should be talked about more, but in its own context.

            • Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world
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              1 day ago

              It literally isn’t.

              It’s pointing out that this is the pot calling the kettle black.

              Whataboutism would be like “the US uses its media funding apparatus to keep certain ideas out of public consciousness.”

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                1 day ago

                Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in “what about …?”) is a pejorative for the strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of a defense against the original accusation.