That was an amazing read. My hometown was really similar, though maybe not as desolate. Lucky there was a college town close by so we could shop at some place that wasn’t Walmart. This really does sum it up, though, the appeal of Trump out of these smaller rural communities. I like the message at the end, too. Thanks for sharing. 🙏

I can see you’re not a hexbear, but this is a post in a .world comm where even enlightened takes on liberals such as yours aren’t always welcome. Anyway, thanks for the chat.

Thanks for clearing that up. Also, I find it ironic talking to another leftist on the Hexbear hate thread.

I see US liberals as defending both social and economic policies. Here are some examples I can think of:

• Supporting unions but also not cracking down on union busting as much as they should
• Wanting universal healthcare solutions (Obamacare) while not wanting Medicare for all or proper socialized medicine.

I am just speaking to what I observe, but I think the trick the liberal party in my country play is a show of being “for the people” and giving concessions but, in the end, being absolutely capitalist motivated.

I’m sorry, I’m an American where liberals are actually centrists, but can you explain to me what else is off-base about this chart?

Edit: I would also like to see a chart that is more accurate in your view if you have one available.

It’s YA but I suggest Hatchet because it’s the book I remember actually making an impression on me.

That is one of the few instances my instance is defederated from, so I haven’t had much interaction with them. I can speak about Hexbear because I see their posts and interact with them.

This is my philosophy as well.

I’m glad your instance stayed federated because I’ve seen some good takes from lemm.ee users on hexbear threads! 🥰

This guy knows nothing of the political spectrum.

Thank you for saying this in a more detailed way than I have been. This is exactly right. They built their own leftist haven and became a whole culture of their own, and then became federated. There is bound to be an initial clash, but honestly I think most of the people who hate on them never gave them a chance. All they saw were the shitposts and the in-jokes and you closed the door.

When it comes to dealing with HB users here, my advice is the exact same as dealing with other users

• if you don’t like what someone is saying (because it’s idiotic, obstrusive, or whatever), block the person for some peace of mind.

• if you’re consistently uninterested on the content coming from an instance, block the instance.

I see a lot of leftists (and leaning leftists), even on .world, who would be better off interacting with the users there (maybe blocking the shitposting comms). And outside of those most-seen comms (chapotraphouse and dunk_tank), there is genuine conversation and less shit talking and in-jokes. I believe, with more instances coming in that are federated with them (mine, .ml, and lem.ee? are a couple), some of the Hex-natives are understanding how to interact with curious left-leaning people with unintentionally wrong-headed ideas.

Downvote me all you want, I stand by Hexbear. o7

There are some leftists on .world, but they usually leave in favor of leftist instances from what I have personally seen.

Fair, that’s what I did.

Honestly .world should have just blocked the most common shiposting Hexbear comms like chapotraphouse and dunk_tank as these are what most users found annoying. And I believe ther are more leftists on .world than one might think. There’s a great games comm on Hexbear too, and downvote away on the leftist game posts - Hexbear doesn’t have downvotes anyway!

This is why I left .world in the first place, and that was even when their censorship was understandable. That’s the beauty of Lemmy.

https://www.thingsinsquares.com/comics/im-lovin-it/

That’s what I see too!

Guy who shot Trayvon Martin wasn’t a cop.

Yep, that’s the one side. The other side is the idea that we choose to be moral or immoral and, while name calling is mean, lying and trying to deceive is immoral. It would also mean being a part of the shift from “pics or it didn’t happen” to “you can’t believe every picture you see”, mirroring what happened with news. There’s a argument that we’re there already or it’s inevitable, there’s an argument of “do anything you have to in order to win” but, while that feels true, it also feels kind of wrong to me.

I am so torn between these two arguments. Sometimes you have to go to war, but what atrocities can you live with committing? It’s a tough line to walk.

The difference is no official White House or Harris Campaign (or lib news outlets) have retweeted this. People on the internet are going to make this shit, and I find it entertaining honestly. Once the official channels start trying to pretend it’s news or real, then it’s too far imo.