If you’re doing actual big compute its cheaper in the cloud. Considerably. It’s also very easy and cheap to store lots of data. You will never be able to compete with their price for storage so I have no idea why you think that would be true.

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He’s just making stuff up anyway. It’s not difficult to pull apart those data sets. The information is readily available. It just doesn’t show the first thing that came out of his mouth is correct.

I’ve done the on prem design. I’ve migrated people entirely to the cloud. I specialize a little in between.

Without any shred of doubt the cloud is going to be more cost effective than self hosting for 99% of all use cases. They’re priced that way intentionally. You cannot compete with Cloudflare/AWS/GCP/Vultr/Akami/Digital Ocean/etc.

My homelab isn’t about scaling, production workloads and definitely isn’t accessible to anyone but me. I’d argue using it in any other way defeats the purpose and shows a lack of understanding.

Completely agree. We all must take action, but here isn’t a great place to discuss it.

That’s not the point. Its unprofessional. Someone is going to smash and grab OPs idea and actually have the skills to host it properly. Probably at a fraction of the cost because OP doesn’t understand that hosting SaaS products out of his house isn’t professional or effective.

Also; cloud is cheaper than self hosting at any small amount of scale. This wouldn’t cost much to run in AWS if built properly. The people who struggle with AWS costs are not professionals and have no business hosting anything.

SLAs?

You’re going to need a redundant ISP and a generator. You’ve left the territory where it’s economical to self host something if that’s what you’re looking at. You still have several other single points of failure.

And I’ll be honest, your setup isn’t ready for an SLA either. Just having a second machine is such a small part of what you need to do before doing any guarantees. Are you using a Dynamic DNS service? What’s the networking setup look like? Router to Compute?

From the sounds of it, you’re not a professional. It might be time to engage an expert if you want to grow this.

He’s still stuck in 2014 and thinks screaming Nazi at everyone who disagrees with him is going to change people’s minds.

People like that are just using the performative righteousness as an excuse to bully people.

You’ll need a place for the dialogue. Do you know anywhere that would work? I don’t know how we can organize at that level, but I’m willing to learn.

They’re openly fascists. I don’t know why you’re trying to split hairs. They’re not hiding it.

No you don’t. Fascists shouldn’t be given time of day. People who don’t act with integrity or good faith don’t get to sit with civilized society. The ideas aren’t valid and don’t have any merit. They come from uneducated people who have had their head filled with hate and prejudice. They’re not good citizens or decent people. They’re hate filled time bombs. They’re so mentally weak they gave into hating other people based on prejudices talking heads have them.

They don’t get a seat. They’re opinion is not valid. They should be ostracized by all civilized society until they stop being antisocial and destructive.

And that’s the nice, merciful and patient option.

Replied to the wrong comment. My b.

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