Thank you, sounds interesting.

If by economy you mean some of us are needed to mop up hydraulic ass-juices at gunpoint I suppose you’re technically correct. At least they have to feed us, right?

…right?

This is almost 20 years ago today, so my memory is a bit hazy, but basically each student had an account with a certain amount of server space. I can’t remember the size, but given the amount of digital files we produced it would’ve been at minimum 500GB+/student. We could also “see” the account folder for everyone else in our class for file sharing and stuff.

There were also accounts/folders for each teacher which were used to turn in the primary copy of whatever assignment we had done if it was in digital form. Physical art were scanned or photographed also, as a sort of backup. We were also required to back every project up via USB sticks, ofc.

There was also a rack with individual docks for each digital camera that they had which allowed us to get our photographs transferred to our own folders. Since we could access those files from our accounts it also was a part of that server system.

There were also several networked and customised Macs used for single tasks, like larger printing projects and also for an airgapped paintgun for a lack of a better description. We avoided having to wear masks when we printed large sheets in single colours with it, for example. I have no idea what software that thing used, I think I used it like once or twice.

Now, I’ll freely admit that I haven’t touched a Mac since I left that school, and I’ve never had any interest in them whatsoever, so I don’t know what they used or if it even exists anymore. Someone with more knowhow maybe does?

I do remember them specifically (proudly) telling us it all ran on Macs, otherwise I probably wouldn’t have any reason to believe so. The “server room” was basically what looked like a glorified closet with a rack and a couple of Macs that didn’t look like the ones we students used. This was just before the all-in-one models were introduced, iirc.

Depending on what your definition of “enterprise” is, I’ve attended what was at the time a fairly large and prestigious art school that ran everything on Macs.

They even preferred that we didn’t bring windows laptops, although after some… rather intense protests by pretty much anyone under 25 we did get to bring our own peripherals.

Edit: I’ll also add that outside the shitty keyboards and mice, the server system they had set up with our accounts on etc was completely fine.

Never had a single issue with it and it was my first ever touching a Mac.

I agree completely. I could see an argument for one instance that is shown globally via screens or whatnot as each year passes, but other than that it is such an enormous amount of unnecessary wastage.

Similar. Åland is predominantly Swedish-speaking (we’re a minority on the mainland), and they have fairly extensive legal autonomy as well.

In practice Åland is also a legally demilitarized zone, though I doubt Russia would give a fuck.

Åland is still a part of Finland, even though they have a certain degree of autonomy.

At least there’s two three four of us.

“Grok” really says everything that needs to be said about this farce, isn’t it?

That’s a worthwhile question to ask, no doubt.

You’re completely correct, pneumatic sounded cooler. I know, I’m a complete scumbag.

Hey I’m glad you know what gets you hammered, you do you ;)

Everyone has a plan until a pneumatic metal fist hammers them silly.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Can I have some of whatever you’re having?

The man is a swedish speaking Finn originally, it kinda comes with the territory. We might technically be a minority but we’re still as Finnish as the rest of them (to a certain degree at least).

If it wasn’t apparent already, we don’t live on the same continent. We live in completely different worlds.

The biggest threat here is getting mugged by some youngster with a knife that’ll get caught within 15 minutes.

If I lived over there I’d be carrying too. Here? Here we leave our babies to sleep outside safely.

Yes, I understood that point. It’s just not widely shared outside of the US. I personally wouldn’t mind having something for self defense, but I’m in a minority and it comes from living a rough life when younger. Luckily the risk of running into an armed intruder here is just about zero anyway. It’s just another world, really.

…and I think you’re smart enough to know there’s no outshooting any government, no matter the country.

I agree in principle, and the fee in itself isn’t expensive. It’s the fact that you need to buy a safe with a high enough security rating (which they actually do come to check on randomly) and then also another secure place to store ammo in. Legally they have to be separated when not in use.

After that you need an active membership in either a hunting party or a gun sports club, and participate/shoot a certain amount each year to keep the license for your gun. You also have to file and get approved for each individual gun you buy/own.

With all that said though, once you’ve gotten your first license and proved you can handle whatever firearm you got for either purpose it gets easier to get a second one, and then a third, as long as you have a valid enough reason to buy and own whatever gun you’re after.

Most people just start with a .22 and go up from there if it is for sports, or buy a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

As for self defense - it’s practically impossible to get a handgun for self protection purposes in any legal way, unless there are very special circumstances. Owning a gun for self protection is just not a thing people take seriously here, outside certain …groups.

As a sidenote tho, if you know where to look it’s not particularly hard to get a handgun if you want one, you just don’t want to get caught with one, and it’s also not completely trivial to get decent ammo. A black market Glock goes for around 500€ afaik.

Like I said, I agree with you in principle, but like I also mentioned, Finland is very conservative with certain things. This is one of them. I haven’t been shooting for a long time due to medical reasons, so some of this might be out of date. Maybe someone more involved please correct me if I got something wrong.

Finland is up there on weapons per person in Europe, but it is both expensive and complicated to get that first license. It does get easier the more you are into it, but following all the laws to the letter is, again, expensive as hell.

Meanwhile practically every fighting aged male has had some time on the range and weapon safety drilled into them during their conscription, although some more so than others. It might be an old system, but it works for us. Can’t really see it working in the US, tho, for obvious reasons.

Is it practical? Not really. Do we have a lot of mass shootings? Nope.