No, the Krohkite addon doesn’t have a configuration window to change shortcuts in the Kwin scripts section. And there is no need for anyway, as all shortcuts are in a central place of KDE shortcuts.

BTW back in KDE 5 I did that, used an alternative tiling window manager (I think it was i3wm) instead KWin. It worked, but it had its own set of problems. Not sure if it is still possible, but based on my prior experience I wouldn’t recommend it anyway. Instead the tiling script / addon Krohkite should be used, as people recommend. I use it myself (and I am a tiling window manager guy) and it works well, as it is well integrated and smooth experience in KDE.

That’s manual tiling with the mouse. It’s not the same as auto tiling like PopOS does.

Also available through KDE Settings > Window Management > KWin Scripts > [Get New…] . Installing it through this method should automatically update whenever its updated.

You change the shortcuts in the Plasma shortcuts window. Just type in the KDE shortcuts search bar “krohkite” to show matching entries only.

There was a period when KDE 6 was new and the Wayland stuff on top of it, where Kröhnkite didn’t work well. I use it since then as my daily driver and don’t have issues. Off course there might be edge cases and I do not resize windows manually much, in tiling mode. But I use floating mode too and resize windows to my liking and don’t have an issue like that.

BTW there is an fantastic “Dock” mode in Kröhkite, where you can define a window to be a dock that is always visible on the left/right or up/bottom area of all desktops; behaves similar to a normal dock from KDE Plasma. It’s a function I never saw in any other desktop environments or tilers.

Another Kröhnkite user here. I used tiling window managers before (mainly Qtile) and cannot use a desktop without auto tiling anymore.

Kröhnkite: is THE tiling addon for KDE in my experience. There was a period when it was broken and I experimented with other solutions (Polonium worked for a while, but now that thing stopped working lol and Kröhnkite works well again). You just need to setup your keybindings and configure the limited configuration itself. You can also remove the title bars and have colored outline for active window, if that is your thing. But that is not very configurable and is a weak point in my opinion.

Karousel: a scrollable tiling window manager. If that is your thing. It worked fine, I’m just not a fan of this type.

Mouse Tiler: and then there is a new and promising addon script in the works. The main selling point was and is that tiling is done manually and with mouse only. But after lot of request the dev is working on an automatic tiling system, which puts it into my radar. And I hope it will have configurable keyboard shortcuts too. Dev says the auto tiling works already and in the next days it will be updated. Didn’t try it out yet, but looks promising to me.

The Windows UX is horrible. What desktop environment do you use on Linux, that you think that Windows is better? :D

I searched the web and found this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends

Thanks, but… Is this output from an Ai model?

LTT - Linus Tech Tips YouTube channel tried out Linux, PopOS!. And there was a horrible outcome, where he tried to uninstall or install Steam and the dependencies would remove the entire desktop for whatever reason. Rendering the installation broken and unusable obviously. There was a big warning in the terminal, but he didn’t read and ignored it and continued.

There was lot of debate, but ultimately it was fault from both sides: ignoring warning that explains what happens, and no safeguards from the distro so this bug should not make it unusable.

LOL fair enough. I guess a more friendly description of that would be “the distro must assume you don’t read everything”. Okay so that makes sense, given what happened.

For what in example? I used Windows for 8 years and then from time to time after that, plus helping my brothers computer with modern Windows. I never had to use the commandline. But maybe there are some tasks that requires it, because there is no GUI for. What would that be?

What is the LTT Linux test? I know its a reference to the LTT YouTube channel and the fail they experienced. But how do we a LTT Linux test and report it as a success?

https://github.com/HoloISO/releases/releases

I don’t think HoloISO is developed anymore. Last release is from Jun 3, 2024.

POSIX shell is the standard that all shells should support (Fish does not I think). Its basically what is executed if you run it as /usr/bin/sh script. POSIX is not a specific shell itself, its just the standard. /usr/bin/sh is usually a symbolic link to an actual shell interpreter. And any shell could support it, in example Bash with its compatibility mode (what is usually done by default in todays Linux systems). Or Dash is designed to do that specifically and only that as far as I know.

Bash on the other hand is an enhanced shell that introduces some concepts, features and changes default behavior of the standard POSIX. That is when the script runs with /usr/bin/bash. This is also used in your terminal as the interactive shell. And ZSH in example is similar to Bash, but has some extended features over Bash. They are relatively speaking similar. I think ZSH is or was the default shell in MacOS too.

As for KSH, I don’t have no experience about this myself. I only know it exists and just saw checklists of differences.

However my personal shell preference is zsh. When I write scripts I do so using bash. The two shells are 99% similar on a day to day basis, but I prefer zsh for a user interface. So I use one for day to day and the other for scripting.

I used to do the same, Bash as the default script interpreter and ZSH as my terminal interactive shell. Worked well. I also had Dash as the /usr/bin/sh installed. But once I installed a new OS, I did not want to set it up immediately and wanted to do it later. Then I realized that I do not need to and frankly didn’t notice any difference. Besides ZSH was a bit slow here and there with the kind of setup I had. So since then I stayed on Bash only again and don’t miss most of the stuff (but ZSH had some nice features).

I wouldn’t have even mentioned Fish here, its too different. If you going to learn a scripting language that is this different, then there are even more shells out there. I would stick to Bash (or ZSH for that matter). Especially if its the first shell language you get into.

In the past I replaced Bash as the default POSIX shell interpreter /usr/bin/sh with Dash. Normally the /usr/bin/sh is run by Bash in compatibility mode, if no Bash features are needed. Dash is an independent implementation of /usr/bin/sh compatibility and in theory should startup a little faster than Bash for those scripts. In practice I didn’t notice any difference on my modern computers (and I mean more than a decade old by now). My personal experience and recommendation is not to worry about this and not install Dash at all. If you do, nothing will break or get worse, but I believe nothing is won either.

Dash as an interpreter for /usr/bin/sh is only for shell scripts, that run the shell in default mode without Bash or other features. It is not intended for use in the terminal in an interactive manner.

Learning Bash? Oh hell yeah! The language is a bit ugly and has really lot of pitfalls and dumb language constructs or default behavior. But it is the default and you can rely on Bash for the most part in Linux. You can write scripts, understand others scripts and make changes to them. And it is even used in the IT industry everywhere (well maybe not everywhere…). But that’s not all, you have to learn Linux stuff too, not just the scripting language to make most use of it. While Bash the language itself is ugly, it is still useful to learn the basics and get into it a bit deeper over time. I fully recommend it.

Thanks for the explanation. That reminds me an issue. I changed my default gamepad.

At least one issue with EndeavourOS I had in the past (and that’s not an issue with the distribution, but with the model of having newest Kernel) was that the newest Kernel sometimes broke the driver for my gamepad, XBox One S proprietary dongle using medusalix xone driver from AUR to be specific. So I had to wait sometimes days or longer until the driver was updated in order to use the controller. This issue could be avoided when using an LTS Kernel instead, which is very easy to setup in EndeavourOS as it comes with such a GUI.

Your given arguments makes lot of sense. So it is about stability (in the sense of not changing, not about bugs). So you seek a setup and forget installation, which is understandable and maybe would have preferred doing so too in your case.

Why did you change from Endeavour to Debian? Didn’t it work well on the MacBook you have? Just curious, no judging.