Simple, because he didn’t make a direct threat, didn’t direct anyone else either. Hell, he didn’t even call for her death. Trump’s using the mob boss language he learned in NYC.
“I think OP should have 9 guns pointed in his face for posting this.”
See how that works? All I said was that you should be threatened. Didn’t threaten action myself nor direct anyone else to action.
Speech like this is clearly stochastic terrorism, but the US really doesn’t have laws around it. I would hope there’s an incitement angle to this, IANAL, but our strong 1A rights make it sticky.
I heard the word “LZ should be executed” from “media report”.
It’s also a violation of his probation, check with his probate officer when the warrant will be issued
There is a club… and you aint in it, peasant.
I know it’s different from a call to arms which is illegal. Maybe it’s assault? Like another user said, money and power makes a difference in what you can get away with.
In the US, white, rich and influential people don’t get arrested just because they committed a crime!
Because Donald Trump is above the law – laws simply don’t apply to him.
(Or at least that is how much of the country is acting, INCLUDING the US Supreme Court.)
Trump will not get arrested because the democrats needs him as a strawman.
Lol you mean like painting someone as a mentally challenged felon, fraud, a menace to democracy & basic decency, while that someone actually doesn’t deserve it? … Oh wait, he does deserve it
Of course he does deserve it, the dude is calling a genocider to prevent peace talk. That’s conspiracy to commit genocide, a capital offense.
Then how comes he’s allowed to run and not in jail? The dems want him around.
Easier for you to struggle to wrap it up with a tidy bow and keep it simple like that. So you feel in control and not as scared. You seem like a “you know I could be president, I just don’t want to” sort of person.
You overlook, casually, the endless complexity of this moment and a decision to forcefully take him into custody in what? some sort of extrajudicial action, I imagine you’re implying? No mention of the several trials looking to hold him accountable that were filed long before the election and delayed into limbo by trump and his gangs corrupt manipulation of the lower courts and SCOTUS. So now, if you “put him in jail” and say he’s “not allowed to run” he still wins, because that’s all his defective sycophants need to start slitting the throats of anyone they suspect is “a trans” on sight at the walmart.
It’s not satisfying, but they are betting on the American people defeating him soundly enough in a democratic vote that they just can’t deny (inside, they’ll still cry fraud and all that, but inside they’ll know) what an unpopular loser he is. We’re fucked either way, at least for awhile, there will be "aftershocks"and drawn out challenge horseshit if he loses by large margins, maybe another flailing coup attempt, but it will pop some balloons if they have to see daddy take another L in his line of many Ls.
Still unsure if troll, or mentally challenged lemming
Ty for calling out the non-sense. Somehow accusing Democrats of also being on the take is considered outlandish.
Theyve got us fighting over scraps (abortion, marriage, the right to express ourselves and love who we want) but they are in full agreement on where most of the tax dollars go (MIC, contracting companies of powerful friends, subsidies for factory farms).
Gonna have to wake up the dormant Sheeple.
Because you’re not rich. The repressive part of the US “justice” system is only for poor people.
And they don’t want to start a precedent of prosecuting politicians for threatening to or actually killing people. That would be bad for defense contractors.
Laws are only for the plebs
My theory to all of the BS he gets away with is because he knows who was in Epstien’s black book and who visited his island, but snuffing out an ex-president would be a bad look. So they protect him in the hope he doesn’t squeal.
Possibly, but I believe that Putin has a ton of dirt on all of them from the GOP email hack.
True, possibly also all of that evidence that went missing from Epstiens house when Chump delayed the U.S. from seizing it all for 4 days.
He didn’t threaten anything; he made a (surprisingly, for Trump) valid comment against a dedicated war hawk.
You could make a case that based on his other comments and stochastic terrorist language that what he said was dangerous, but those claiming that this specific instance was a threat either didn’t listen closely to what he said (you don’t give someone facing a firing squad a rifle of their own), or just listen to those media reports who are purposefully spreading disinformation.
He has made plenty of statements that are prosecutable, people don’t need to grasp at straws.
To answer the question, yeah if you said the same thing Trump did about Cheney, you’d be fine. It wasn’t a threat. He said give her a rifle and put her on the front lines if she’s so eager to have a war, see how she feels then.
That’s said, Vote. Vote for Harris. While Trump didn’t advocate for putting Cheney in front of a firing squad here, he has asked his military personnel to kill citizens and next time he won’t have someone that will stop him.
Look guys, the law is not code. It is not if(strcmp(speech, “kill”) then return guilty();. There’s this whole concept of mens rea which means a required element of the crime is whether or not he meant it as a threat to her, which you will note requires human judgement (by a jury!) to evaluate. It is highly unlikely that anyone would take this rhetoric, violent and gross as it may be, as a plausible threat against Liz Cheney by Trump.
unless harris wins this, the law doesn’t apply to trump.
Some guy in Alaska threatened to assassinate six of the justices on the supreme Court and he was pretty quickly arrested.
Weird how that works.
I hate Trump, but I also hate being dishonest. He didn’t threaten her.
“I hate trump, but…”
“I hate elon, but…”
“Look, in the last got to defend trump, but”
These aren’t the statements of people that hate these monsters. These are the beginnings of statements of apologists working to soften the blow.
He threatened her. No integrity in your statement. Even if you needed to classify threats on a spectrum, this registers in several spots on that spectrum, regardless of your attempt to spin here. This was decidedly a threat, even without context of who trump is, but ESPECIALLY with that context.
I’m sorry, but no. He said she would feel differently about war if she were in the shoes of service men and women who have weapons pointed at them.
Do I agree with him? No, but it wasn’t a threat on her life.
Again, in the context of trump, it’s a threat on her life. He’s a chicken shit coward that mostly speaks in dog whistles and always carefully falls on that line of plausible deniability. For many others, you might give them the benefit of the doubt, NOT for trump.
The next day he said if people wanted to shoot him at a rally (where of course, his own supporters try to shoot him), they should shoot through the Press Corps and he’d be okay with that… You want to catch your breath and start defending that one now as well.
I actually agree that he dog whistles quite a bit, but his specific statement this particular time is not that. I think the less honest we are, and the more we just try to make the next sensationalist headline, the less credibility we have. That’s what the other side does. It is not what we should do. He says plenty we can hold him accountable for, we have zero need to make stuff up.
Again. Nobody is being dishonest here. This is brutal honesty about the reality of trump. He wasn’t properly punished for his “Beer Hall Putsch” last time, his follow-up is in a few months - hitler’s follow-up after not being properly punished was… significant. This is worth taking seriously.
IMO (formed in our brief exchange) you’re operating with a pre-trump mindset from, frankly, a position of privilege. Women are literally dying, they are actively planning to round up people that they “feel” “seem” to be “illegals”. Democracy is threatened after 250 years of survival. Respectfully, WAKE THE FUCK UP, FRIEND.
“They go low, we go high” WAS the noble, idealist position of the last election, notice they aren’t saying it now. Walz is now calling musk a “goofy dipshit”, because the other side isn’t listening to professional, courteous decorum - THEY ARE LITERALLY BANNING LITERATURE AND REWRITING HISTORY IN TEXTBOOKS. Again, your position is “nice” but seems fully informed by a privileged position, removed from direct threat from the things that are ACTUALLY happening today.
You’re actively investing energy into laundering his horseshit here. You’re in the bottom right corner of the TV screen translating his accelerating fascist rhetoric into “calm down, everyone”. You should ask yourself why you’re doing those things.
