Apple forced to ditch iPhone lightning charger::Apple confirms new iPhone 15 will have a common USB-C charging port after EU forces it into the change.

  • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You’ll feel right at home with usb-c then. I use both every day and, honestly, they both suck.

    But with Usb-c you get Power Delivery which kicks the shit out of old 5v 2a nonsense

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      1 year ago

      I find usb-c generally better. faster charging, as you’ve pointed out. I find the connections usually a lot more secure too. I have one cord in my car for android auto that’s a finicky little bitch, though, and I’m about to yeet that thing, if I ever remember to replace it. All of my other cords have held up well, and it’s really nice to have the ability to charge all of my devices with one cord.

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      1 year ago

      Just curious why you think USB C sucks? I think it’s gotten to a mature point now with PD 3.0 or 3.1. I have 1 cable next to my bed that will charge my phone, headphones, laptop, tablet etc. No worrying at all.

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        1 year ago

        Part of the issue is exactly what you just mentioned: There are a lot of different standards with varying degrees of compatibility, and none of them are visibly different from one another. There isn’t a good way to immediately identify which cables are “good” and which will just outright refuse to charge your devices. So some of my USB-C cables will charge low power devices, but not bigger things like a laptop or iPad.

        Meanwhile, the lightning charger was really really good at enforcing uniformity across different cables. Because you knew you could plug any lighting cable into any lightning port, and it would charge just fine. Yes, this inevitably caused issues with speed as tech progressed and Apple refused to upgrade to new standards. But that refusal also helped them maintain uniformity. Apple also shifted away from hardline data transfers years ago; 99.9% of iPhone users will have iCloud backups happen automatically via wifi, and iCloud means you’re not doing full phone backups every time. You only do the initial backup, then it simply pushes daily changes as you go whenever you connect to wifi. So the actual amount of data that gets transferred is relatively low with day-to-day usage, and it doesn’t eat into your limited call phone data plan. The regular user rarely (if ever) needs to transfer anything via the lightning port, because wireless sync takes care of things as long as they’re on wifi.

        The rapid development of USB-C has been great for the tech. But it also means that (as someone who has an iPhone and has very little need for USB-C cables) I’ve bought more USB-C cables in the past two or three years than I have lightning cables. Because my five year old lightning cables are still working fine, while all of my USB-C cables from before the pandemic had to be replaced; Not because they were broken, but simply because newer devices would refuse to charge with them.

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          1 year ago

          Yeah I get that there are some teething issues but for an iphone geezer now it should be pretty ubiquitous. USB C to USB C cables will do 60w. Then if they have the special chip they can do 100W + (5A).

          It’s even less of an issue for an iphone 15 that will likely top out at 25w.

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      1 year ago

      But with Usb-c you get Power Delivery

      iPhones have supported the PD spec since 2017 (iPhone 8 and iPhone X), assuming the cable supports it (requiring USB-C to Lightning). Their big mistake was not shipping a PD-compatible charger and cable in the box, so very few users actually got one.

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      1 year ago

      I always feel like usbc could just flip out at any moment. I like the lightning connector better in that regard at least. Usbc just seems looser.

      • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 year ago

        Use a product with less shit USB-C ports then?

        Literally never had a C port that wasn’t as tight as a classic USB

        Nowhere near the loosening issues micro and mini had in their times

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          In that reasoning they made confuses me.

          I’ve also never had a usb-c just fallout/ feel non-secure. You’d think with the increased surface area with the usb-c ring fitting between the port wall and the center peg of the port would increases gripyness logically. Vs The single peg insert of a lightning cable.

          But eh, im no physics doctor.

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            Lightning has the divots in the sides of the cable and then two idk spring loaded bits that press in there on the phone side. It’s insanely secure, one could argue possibly too much, but I can hang my phone from the cord and it won’t fall out.

            Now that’s not to say USB-C is bad like it falls out or anything, just that it takes more force to disconnect a lightning cable than USB-C.

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              1 year ago

              Ah yes the clips! I stand corrected haha.

              I haven’t owned an Apple product since the ipod nano, so the only lightning cables im used too, are user owned devices, which are normally chewed up without the little side clips functioning.

              Ty, for the reminder!

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                1 year ago

                It might actually be the port is jammed up with dust on the devices you have used so it couldn’t fully insert and lock in. Being that lightning is a decent sized hole lint gets in there and then when you plug the cable in you compact it all down and it eventually keeps you from fully inserting the cable but it can often still charge though sometimes it is a bit finicky. I clean my out about once a year due to this, haven’t noticed in 3 years of owning a device wearing out the clippy/spring dodads.

          • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Nah, lightning connectors have spring clips that hold the connector secure inside the port. Apple does a lot of things wrong, but the lightning port was at least very secure. It has a good solid snap into place, and is more than strong enough to hang the phone from the cord.

            Plus the actual lightning connector is damned near indestructible because it’s basically solid metal. I’ve had cables fail before, but always because of the actual cable. The jacket will come unbraided, or the copper wires will fray. But that’s up to the individual manufacturer, not Apple specifically; Any USB cable will be prone to those same issues, because they’re using the exact same cable. The connector has never been broken or deformed. Hell, the one I’m using on my bedside table has literally been run over by a car, and it still works just fine.