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    11 months ago

    This is literally the point of The Boys. What if normal greedy people held the power, what would that look like if they were superpowered.

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    Didn’t USA come up with both characters? One in the 1930s and one now? More of a sign of the times I say.

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      Yeah. The Boys is literally a hot take on current America. And it’s awesome. People that think this meme is clever have never seen the show. It’s basically the entire point of the show.

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      USA participating in WW2 is one of the greatest net goods in history at the cost of millions of lives. Cant argue it was citizens sent into involuntary massacre. Neither can you argue how the most evil and horrible empires got dismantled then or eventually.

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        We were never that great. We got to where we are through exploiting the natives land and through slavery. Also rampant sexism and homophobia to name a few. But if you don’t give a shit about any people in those categories, i.e. only care about white people and even that mainly just white men then sure I guess we were great back then.

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          Meh, we were great at many things, and horrible at many things. Life is grey, not black and white.

          Every nation on the planet has sins. I’m not minimizing America’s; they are grave. But across the world, throughout history every parcel of land was taken, and every nation has at one point exploited it’s people. It’s childish to imagine any nation/culture/people is clean.

          Certainly not agreeing with the “back in the good old days” rhetoric. As you point out, “the good old days” weren’t so good if your skin was the wrong color, or had polio, or didn’t want to serve in a war, or many other reasons.

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            Colonialism is definitely a unique sort of evil. If you don’t think that I’m sceptical that you’re particularly broadly read.

            The scale of atrocities committed is just beyond comparison, like the most hardcore genocide in ancient times (that we have evidence of) was against a single city. In colonialism we are talking about continents.

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              Huh? Various ancient peoples led continent wide conquests. In the new world and the old.

              I’m not saying modern nations are “better”, I’m saying human nature, the process of power, and the means of acquisition are uniform through time. Further, nearly every section of territory we are discussing was “conquered” multiple times.

              Of course there were less people there hundreds of years ago, that doesn’t change displacement/ acquisition/genocide/ etc

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                So genocide is the key word. A lot of conquest did not involve the displacement or extermination of entire peoples until colonialism.

                Conquering a place was largely “so you pay tax to me now” prior to colonialism, at which point it became more “so you are subhuman and need to be exterminated or bread of of existence”

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        You never were. Genocide of native Americans directly to 300 years of African slavery.

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          I meant to say so fucking great. I understand why I’m getting down voted. That was the point I’m making. This country has always been a worthless fucking shit hole since day one.

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          Actin like the US isnt the only country to kill natives and have slaves. Every country is bad. We just have to try and be less bad as time goes on. But that seems almost impossible with who runs countries.

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    “If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don’t care for human beings.” - Nelson Mandela

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            Lmao I thought your reply was a joke on Israel calling everything Hamas. You were serious? Lol

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              Can’t attest to their intentions but “speak for yourself” would be the continuation of the ken m “we are all x on this blessed day” meme, whether or not that’s what you were going for.

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        What does a terrorist group sacrificing Palestinians for the palaces of their leadership who assault and kill people in an international music festival dedicated to peace have to do with a famous politician and anti-apartheid activist who did his best to do things the right way? Stop gaslighting with terrorist apologism.

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            Damn if these groups are all really Hamas I think we’re gonna have to re-evaluate our assessment of these “Hamas” folks

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          waaa you can’t just crash our party we’re holding in a genocidal ethnostate right beside an open-air prison waaa

          Lol. Lmao even

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          Both are none of the American business.

          As a serious note, what has happened on 7th of october was most definitely known beforehand by Israeli government and was entirely under their control, if not staged by them in the first place. Unless you don’t know, the gaza strip is (unlawfully) blockaded from all sides, including the sea, with rigorous checkpoint inspections to make sure that absolutely nothing goes in or out without Israeli knowledge. There is a huge fucking wall on the border that’d make Trump jealous, patrolled 24/7 by a whole battalion of armed forces and equipped with the most state-of-the art surveillance equipment, capable of tracking every single bird flying over Gaza. The only way a bunch of bozos on bulldozers could even approach it undetected is if Israeli intentionally removed security and disabled surveillance over some parts of the wall.

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      That’s rich coming from a fucking terrorist himself. Dude blew up civilians too. Guess he knows what he’s talking about.

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          Ya, the whole ’ oppressor’ v ’ oppressed’ narrative has caused some younger people to lose their understanding and morality. Mother fuckers are cheering for bin Laden and the Houthis right now, let alone Hamas. It’s completely fucked up. Those are the bad guys, there’s no way to argue otherwise reasonably.

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            No, kids think terrorism is based because you boomers keep calling good people terrorists.

            PS: Israel and Hamas are on the same side. They both want a war. Every anti-Israel person is anti-Hamas, and every pro-Israel person is pro-Hamas. If Israel gave equal rights to Palestinians, nobody would give Hamas good press anymore. No new recruits. People would leave. Hamas’ existence is a choice Israel continues to make every day.

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              So bin Laden, the Houthis and Hamas are good people?

              That’s who these people are cheering for. The Houthi flag is the call of the good guys?

              That you think Hamas wouldn’t exist if Israel provided equal rights, shows you are not familiar with the players involved here. Their charter says clearly otherwise, so do their actions. So does the entire history of the region. The goal is the removal of the Jewish people, same as it’s been for centuries. They’re not shy about sharing that either. You should listen to them.

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                So bin Laden, the Houthis and Hamas are good people?

                You boomers have really bad reading comprehension.

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    Now do your country.

    Edit: so far GB and Canada have a sense of humour

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    That’s how our government is. The majority of the people here are like sheep. Completely oblivious to what our military is doing to places around the world.

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      And not even improving the lives of its own citizens. Literally just causing as much death and destruction all over the world as possible just to profit a couple of military and oil corporations and their owners.

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      Yeah, this meme is fine, but it also goes the other way. Media runs off negative news and fear, and what the rest of the world is seeing is our media.