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    18 days ago

    Definitely something we should be looking to fine or tax.

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        18 days ago

        And then everyone cries about high consumer prices, again. Edit: Bunch of reality deniers here. lol Enjoy the fascist uprisings.

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            17 days ago

            My groceries are almost twice as expensive as just a few years ago. So “5%” is a very optimistic outlook. And while you may think that, 95% of the population won’t. You can see that already in our current state that absolutely no one gives a shit about the climate. Not enough to take any sort of hit to their own comfort at least.

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              17 days ago

              You think your groceries doubled because of the people trying to save the planet, and not because of the greed of the millionaire who owns the store who chose to raise the prices and kill unions so they could buy a pet yatch for their mega yatch?

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                17 days ago

                No. I think that needed climate action would cost everyone dearly either way. If you think it doesn’t then you are nothing but naive.

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                  Money is made up. The climate apocalypse just destroyed Florida.

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        17 days ago

        They are functionally the same.

        That said, a tax or fine would be easier to implement.

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        Fines and taxes are incentives. Companies will do whatever’s cheapest, so you can make the good thing cheaper, or the bad thing more expensive. Both will have a similar effect, it’s just a question of where the margins are.
        If a company is selling something at-cost and gets taxed, then they’ll have to raise prices for the consumer, but if they’re getting a stimulus from the government it gets covered by tax payers. Which one ends up being the right choice depends on the product and company in question.

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    18 days ago

    Ooooh, now do the US. My tax dollars are funding it after all. I demand to publish in regular public reports and periodicals who is on the naughty list. Send to the appropriate agency for enforcement.

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    17 days ago

    It’ll be interesting to see what China’s true emissions are, as opposed to their reported number, given how they just lie about every metric (covid deaths, poverty, etc)

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    18 days ago

    Well I don’t see Pakistan doing anything about this, but will be happier to see if we identify other bigger offenders that will be taking steps to fix problems.

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      18 days ago

      Its possible that Pakistan didn’t know how big it was. Not that I think they’d be altruistic about it now, but if its large enough it is a source of energy. Columbus Ohio taps the city landfill for methane extraction and uses it to fuel city busses and dump trucks. There’s even a surplus after that and that is sold at a profit to the city to local natural gas customers for heating etc. source

      “Last year alone, landfill gas sold to Archaea Energy generated more than $3.5 million in revenue for SWACO [Solid Waste Authority of Central Ohio], where it becomes a renewable energy source for Central Ohioans.”

      It looks like Pakistan is a large methane importer: “Imports In 2022, Pakistan imported $4.58B in Petroleum Gas, becoming the 27th largest importer of Petroleum Gas in the world.”

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      If this landfill produces enough methane it would be worth it to tap it as an income/consumption stream by the local population. This satellite data may provide the number to show it would be worth doing this.

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      18 days ago

      Probably not Pakistan but the Permian Basin in Texas also has a big methane emission.