What a wild time to be alive
/pedant the term would be “emigrating”
Specifically the second one.
immigrate from Europe
emigrate to Europe
Depends on your viewpoint.
Emigrate from Europe and immigrate to Europe is also a valid way to look at it.
It is, but that’s not the viewpoint they used in the meme
But only in the first sentence
Just my two cents, not having a go at you:
This is why I’m a pragmatic prescriptivist, I want people to follow norms for ease of communication, unless their innovation fills a need/fixes something about the language.
Stupid english with its stupid verbs.
We’ve got “to” and “from” why do we need to have two differently spelt verbs for basically the same thing.
Sure, you could argue that you can just say “they are emigrating” to imply people are leaving the country permanently, but let’s be honest, not providing any other context it’s practically unheard of. You’ll at least be saying where they currently are, came from, or going to, unless you’re being very abstract. Even then, you couls say “the migrants were immigrating” to be very vague about it. Both immigrating and emigrating involve moving, wtf is the point?
I’m glad few people “properly” use “emigrate” these days. Let’s kill it, it’s redundant!
I may have even gotten the difference wrong, but I’m not gonna look it up since I don’t want to use it anyway haha
How about just ‘migrate’ and ‘migrating’?
I, personally, like a language being rich. Nothing wrong with not knowing all the ins and outs, but calling for simplification on what is already an very simple language is odd.
I just have to point out, in an argument about language pedantry,
an very simple language
I wouldn’t call English simple haha
To me the richness comes from interesting cultural quirks of why we say something, but I’m not really feeling that for emigrate, personally, so would prefer we speed up it being forgotten. Words falling out of use is very common, so I’m happy to lose ones that are annoying
I should also specify, I’m just getting into the spirit of enjoyable nitpicking, also
I think there’s a richness in being able to shift or emphasize perspective like that. And a poetry, for want of a better word, that comes with that.
‘Coming’ and ‘going’ do the same shift. “I’m coming to Europe; they’re coming from Europe,” feels just a bit stilted to me, though that’s subjective I suppose.
If you want to get rid of immigrate Vs emigrate, maybe we just talk about ‘migrate’.
And scrap ‘coming’ and ‘going’ for ‘moving’.
i think you use “emigrating” when leaving their homes behind, but here it is part of the joke that they no longer see the US as their home. instead, they’re seeing europe/whatever other country as their new “home”, so they’re immigrating.
Do you imagine some kind of deeper meaning wrapped in a joke in it?
The more likely explanation is that plenty Americans have poor literacy.
Even plenty of ‘their’ ‘there’ mistakes. Elemental English.
Because when you’re the one who “came up” with it, it’s usually a pretty sweet ride, provided you can weather the revolutions and stuff.
Ooooh sorry weathering revolutions isn’t part of our Fascism ‘25 package - that was extra :-/
Would you be interested in our selection of neck guards?
I blame the French, before them damned near every Germanic society had a broadly democratic tribal or clan based system. Then the French combined that with Roman autocratic systems and somehow created an early version of Divine right of kings and a form of proto absolutism. Yes I am glossing over a tonne of shit but compare the French estates to the clusterfuck that was the Holy Roman Diet and it’s like comparing a member of the English Royal guard to a Somalian pirate.
I blame greed. It doesn’t matter where it came from. It’s some bullshit.
The fascism was within you the whole time.
The fascism was the
friendsenemies we made along the way.The fascism was the friends we massacred along the way.
Like the force and the dark side and shit?
i have come to the conclusion that there is a god and a heaven, alright, but it’s a cruel place that i would never ever ever want to go to. ever
edit: oh yeah, what does that have to do with your comment? well, the christians are going to heaven alright, if you can interpret the american technocracy (or even mars) as “heaven” (by any stretch of the word)
explanation: the christian idea of “heaven” is heavily based on platon’s “ideas”, which are described as “heavenly objects” (a.k.a abstractions), and platon called the collection of all ideas the “inter-net” for some reason, and modern IT is heavily modeled after it, with a purely abstract world ruling the world, more or less. there’s lots of articles how some technological platforms (such as meta, google) shaping what news we get and what we believe/think. thus it is a “techno-cracy”.
Your family brought the curse with them
Now we know who to blame for all this shit.
wait isn’t there some christian story about exactly that … 🤔 something about some curse that is inherited and bans the people from living a good life or sth, i can’t remember. maybe that good life was symbolized as a garden, but i could be wrong
Europe accepts its sons and daughters of long ago. Specially the talented ones who contributed to empowering science in the US.
Not the Drumpf family, tho. Those can stay there instead of returning to their roots in Germany. The last thing we want is a “Make Germany Great Again” movement - they’re already great right now, no need to fix what’s not broken, thank you.
How are they great?
Their economy is going to shit, they have a massive right-wing party, are complete warmongers and supporters of genocide.
Fascism is on the rise in Europe too so maybe go to Japan or something
They’re extremely racist, which is a huge plus, just like the Swiss flag 🇨🇭
True. Australia and New Zealand are our last hope
Fascists on the rise in Australia too sadly. New Zealand is very isolationist and anti immigration.
Brazil is good. Nice food, people and forests.
Those nice people made a fascist president there not too long ago.
(He also made sure there was a lot less forest)Would be ironic if we had to go to Africa because life there is better.
… after decades of relentlessly repeating how much better we have it that “poor children in africa” especially.
That’s exactly my plan C if the lunatics start WW3 suddenly.
Reachable from Europe and less likely to explode.
But I hope to find a perfect spot before that in an organised way.
Saying that could be seen as extremely racist of you.
Japan has its own fascists.
“The belief that America stands for an idea beyond blood and soil makes its identity fragile, because an idea lives in people’s minds, where it is subject to lies, hatred, ignorance, despair, even extinction. But for this very reason, as long as enough Americans continue to believe in the idea with enough conviction to stick it out here and fight, the country that you and I once lived in will still exist for the generation after us.”
The belief that a country should exist purely for nostalgic purposes is the kind of bullshit that got us here in the first place. Countries started existing so that a monach could control resources and worker productivity. Now they are used as a default identity for people to try and connect on some level. If you don’t treat the identity as fragile, sure it can never ‘die’, but it can’t improve or change either.
roko’s basilisk or sth
