Don’t threaten me with a good time
The idea that he might not is rather off-putting
This goes to show how hard it is to put a rich whiteorange? man in prison. The whole system failed at every turn and there’s STILL the chance he might become president again…ain’t that something?
Who would win in a three way fight to the death between 45, meatball ron, and little piss baby?
USA.
Click bait. We’ve heard this for ages. Wake me up when things actually happen, until then stop giving media who keep him front and center the ad clicks.
Yep, this is sooo stupid. They will not jail a former president, even the Dems in power now wouldn’t want that, as much as they’re against the red team they’re all in the elite team and arresting one of their own and jailing them would mean the rest are vulnerable. Shits not going to happen.
But it could ignite a civil war. I’m which case, let’s just get it over with
You do not want a civil war in this country, the majority of the military is made up of one side, and the majority of firearms are also held by one side. It would not turn out like a vast majority of liberals think.
Edit: someone has pointed out that this sounds like I’m part of the right wing group, but I’m pointing out moreso that the majority of the military and gun owners in this country are conservatives. Not trying to make some statement of who would win, but pointing out that it wouldn’t be pretty at all.
The military is not going to revolt against the US for Trump if he is convicted. Get off this right wing fantasy. It will never happen.
That’s not what they said, context matters.
They’re saying we should not want or hope for any kind of civil war of any kind; meaning not limited to Trump, any triggers in the future.
The military itself does not often or have to align up with the majority or to the ethnics that we believe they should abide to.
In other words, a civil war does not guarantee anything; it can backfire horribly wrong on anyone thinking that it would spur some kind of a positive thing. It can just as well turn US into a Nazi-state easily for an example.
Yep, thanks for clarifying it. I hear it from a lot of liberals and even from Biden acting like a civil war would be easily won by the “good guys” side. It doesn’t work like that at all.
Where did I say it would? I was pointing out the fact that the majority of the military are not liberal leaning people.
Get your head out of the sand, a civil war in this country would not go well for one side. FFS you’re neighbors with people you actively hate because of their political beliefs…do you think a bomb isn’t going to level your home as well when those start falling?
PS, I’m a liberal, I just am not a delusional one, and I am a strong 2A supporter. So you can fuck off with the right wing shit.
Calm down there man. I am not a right winger, and apparently I mistakenly took your comment out of context. The overwhelmingly majority of the time online that I see someone saying the military is one sided, they are referring to it being for the right. The structure of your sentence makes it sound like a caution or possibly a threat that the military will back the right. Based on the downvotes you’re getting, I apparently am not the only taking it this way.
I absolutely agree a civil war would be devastating, but I don’t see it happening. My take is once Trump is convicted the media will finally feel they have the freedom to make their separation they’ve been saying they wanted to do in private for years, but have been too scared to make.
I am a gun owning liberal who is against the NRA.
All good, sorry for the hostility, anytime I try and speak logic in political threads I end up getting called a Nazi or right wing or something. I don’t see trump getting convicted. As much as the dem elites hate him, he’s still part of the elite club and they can’t be prosecuting their own.
He knows everything, this one!
Very enlightening comment, you got any more Socrates?
No, Adolf, not after I looked over your recent comments.
My fear is that it’s one of those situations where the system won’t want to admit that it’s so weak and flawed that it almost let a racist cretin overthrow our government.
Unfortunately that’s the more likely outcome here. No sitting or former president has ever done time. Grant being the exception for speeding in a wagon, and even that is doubtable and doesn’t have much to back it up as factual.
“may” “might” “could” “soon” “impending” etc…
We’ve been seeing this for 6 years. At this rate I think it’s more likely he ‘may’ succumb to his decades-long suicide by cheeseburger before he faces any actual consequences for his crimes.
Except he’s actually on trial now for multiple felonies.
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Either way it’ll be a good day for the world.
This is such a stupid and irresponsible article.
First, Trump has to be found guilty.
Second, he has to be found guilty before the elections.
Third, he has to lose the election (which is more or less a toss-up), because if he wins the election, he’ll pardon himself on all federal charges.
Fourth, even if all of that other shit happens, he has to be ordered to report to jail immediately after sentencing, without waiting for an appeal that will certainly be attempted.
This relies on so many things happening in just the right order that it’s functionally speculation.
If Putin “accidentally” hits a NATO target while trying to strike Ukraine, and if NATO responds in kind, and if Putin reacts to NATO’s response by launching nuclear weapons, and if NATO countries respond by launching a full-scale nuclear attach on Russia, then the world will have global thermonuclear war and humanity will have solved human-created climate change via nuclear winter! Yeah, it’s all possible, but it’s not probable.
Let’s throw some more logs on this fire….
Donald Trump has been charged with 37 criminal counts covering seven different violations of federal law
The election is nov 2024
The trial starts in august 2023
There are at least 10 other candidates running for republican
And this pardon would only apply to a federal conviction while Trump is facing charges in both state and federal courts.
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I want to believe, I really do. But people were saying this prior to him winning the first election… And the second.
Let’s just hope he doesn’t get elected 🤞
Well except he lost his second election due to his first presidency being a failure. Since then it’s only gotten worse for him so I’d say his odds of winning are even lower than the second election.
I think it’s more the pandemic that contributed to the Democrats winning the presidency, also the margins are so small with most voters locked in. Hopefully Trump doesn’t pull through but I doubt the Rs are picking anyone else to run. Historical chances usually the incumbent wins.
i hate biden so much for fucking my life so permanently that the perverse side of me wants trump to win because my career and financial stability has improved DRAMATICALLY, directly because of trumps actions when he was president.
i’m not going to vote for biden and will do everything in my power to advocate for voting against biden to everyone i know (and i’ve recently been deeply touched to learn that it works because they know and care for me on a personal level); but this time i won’t hold it against them if any for trump.
I’m curious. Can you explain how exactly Biden being president has fucked your “life so permanently”?
Also, how did your career and financial stability improve DRAMATICALLY solely because of Trump?
copy/pasted from previous interaction: *he supported doma, dont-ask-dont-tell, and spearheaded permanent student loan debt.
so when i graduated high, school military service was not an option because because of don’t-ask-don’t-tell and my parents were migrant farm workers who had no provisions for me. so the only option left to me was to go to college where i racked up enough permanently undischargable student loan debt that grew exponentially between the 2008 and covid collapses thanks to biden’s student loan debt bill. I’ll be paying for it for the rest of my life as a result.
between 2008 and covid, i wanted to marry another immigrant who had no legal status and, thanks to doma, i couldn’t marry and sponsor him so he got deported. he moved on and got married when it was politically convenient for biden to decide that gay marriage was okay and i’m too old of an incouragable fart to date.*
And my financial stability improved because his dipshit unilateral embargoes and actions forced companies to react and I’ve been one of the beneficiaries of those reactions at a time when it was clear that my industry was turtling to protect their bank accounts.
Trump presided during a time of relatively stable economic recovery shortly after the last speculative bubble burst. I don’t believe the two major parties are that different on the economic front, they’re basically supported by the same donors and none of their policies really affect the status quo. For the US voter they offer a choice between different culture war factions, which is basically how it’s been since Reagan.
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Since he is an ex-president who is guaranteed a secret service detail for life, isn’t he much more likely to be granted house arrest or some other sort of “private” incarceration?
He is, but also because of age. Judges and juries are very lenient on the elderly when it comes to sentencing due to prison survivability. That said, a deal is guaranteed and leniency isn’t, especially when we’re likely talking about white collar prison
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As long as he is kept out of office and hopefully his influence is diminished then I would settle for him constantly going to court until he dies.
May the grass on his grave never be able to grow from the amount of people that piss there.
The only problem with pissing on Trump’s grave is… eventually you run out of piss.
It’s okay, we can make more, it’s a simple recipe.
Oh it will happen for sure
I will be doing my part
Strike a deal?!
You insight violence. You try to take over the Capitol with your army of maggots. You steal nuclear secrets. You are a puppet for Putin and after all that the government is offering up a goddamn deal?!?
He should be stripped of his fancy suit, forced to put on prison orange and his mug shot should be plastered all over the news. There should be no deal for a crime lord. The fact that it might even happen, just proves how much some people in government just don;t get the seriousness of this situation. That entire family needs to be taken down. Start with his kids and finish it by throwing Don into prison for treason. In fact prison is better than traitors deserve.
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Absolutely. I was banned from Reddit once for even suggesting this though. Not even for saying that we should do it… for simply pointing out what we used to do to traitors.
Reddit’s ban system is part of why I’m here. Got banned from sub for some bullshit reason. Months later I forgot. Tried to post under new account… sitewide ban. Essentially some belly lint eating idiot banned my primary email from reddit forever lol. All they have to do is not let you post in that sub ever again. But yeah that stupidity is characteristic of how they handle everything.
Your story has happened to a ton of other people.
They don’t care about banning folks because as a social media site all they care about are numbers. Facebook’s stock was rocked a while back when its member count went down. Reddit’s number go up because people who get banned usually just start a new account. To Reddit management, that now means they have 2 isers when they try to sell ad space. It’s all a big scam because they are trying to drive up their numbers for their upcoming IPO.
I just don’t know how Lemmy works with bans and stuff.
One of my first posts on here was one where I hoped that Lemmy moved to a temporary-only ban system. Except for egregious cases (endless spam, etc), ban someone for 6 or 12 hours and that’s it. By that time most people have cooled off and most threads have died down by then. If the person was trying to be a troll, the ship has passed, and people’s attention have moved to the next hot topic.
Very good points I hadn’t considered. I should think though they’d be best served not perma-banning that email address in those regards. Simply filter out any posts I try to make to that sub, and if I really wanted to post to that sub THEN I would make a new email, and new reddit account. That would yield two accounts.
I’m so sick of Reddit BS. I just wish some of the more esoteric subs here had more traffic because they either don’t exist at all, or they’re as good as dead.
He should be stripped of his fancy suit
Ok not to be too facetious but he has really bad suits.
Law doesn’t work like that for the rich.
Whatever, I want him to die in prison. I would call it a yuge win and I would be dancing in the street. Also the sooner the better.
Countless lawyers and trucks full of money won’t let that happen, trump could buy the prison if he wanted.
Sounds good to me
I’ll believe it when it happens. Jackass will likely get off with no real repercussion.
One can hope
I’m just thinking about all the QAnon conspiracy theories that are gonna bloom when he dies. They’ll never accept it, they’ll just go crazier.
