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    Oh yes the famous nation of Europe. An entire continent full of nations and different cultures been rendered down to the stereotypes of the occupants of a single city.

    Americans need to get out more.

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        imagine if someone is complaining about Americans, and interchangeably refering to Canadians/mexicans/Argentinians…

        You damn Americans, always saying sorry with your mate thermos, carnival music mariachis…

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          If they did it in a meme they posted in a community with shitpost in the name I can’t say I would pay it much mind or take any personal offense to it, no. That seems to be a uniquely European thing

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          Fuck heads already do because they say “America refers to all of Americas, not The United States.”

          But also, as a Californian I apologize a lot and listen to mariachi music. You know that states can be culturally as different as nations, right?

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            Thanks for clearly stating why the world makes fun of American stupidity

            You know that states can be culturally as different as nations, right?

            no. they are not, and you only say that, because you have no idea how different cultures can be. California and NY are still American, speak English, eat similar food, do similar sports… whatever difference between California and NY is nothing compared Spain and France.

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        Yeah let’s all just ignore the utter ignorance that this image demonstrates.

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    No, actually. I think it would unironically be better to get all your calories and nutrition from bread, cheese, and sausage than to have a diet consisting of any variety of high-sugar, ultra-processed food.

    Also breakfast is completely optional and its promotion as “the most important meal of the day” is a scam to sell more cereal, milk, and eggs. I will die on that hill.

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      My hill to die on is that breakfast is the only meal that you can work the calories off all day. Eat what you want for breakfast but have a lighter lunch and even lighter evening meal.

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        Well technically you’re burning the same number of calories regardless of the time of day they were consumed, and two meals per day is a lot easier to keep at 2000 calories (as a rule of thumb - different for everybody) than three meals per day.

        Personally I like to keep the digestive process dormant for as long as possible. Eating breakfast makes me hungrier throughout the day, so I end up snacking more than I otherwise would. I’ve never been a breakfast eater though so I’m pretty well wired not to break fast until lunch.

        Edit: also heavy foods require rest and digestion that I do not have time for most mornings

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      Also breakfast is completely optional

      Yes for some, no for others? When I was a kid I hated having breakfast. My stomach would feel weird if I ate within the first two or three hours of being awake. But now, I need something. Nothing heavy. Some toast and peanut butter is good enough. If not, I get sick to my stomach. I would assume I’m not the only one who is like this.

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        aha, hence why I said optional. If you want/need it, have it. If you don’t want or need it, it doesn’t actually harm you in any universally applicable way to just wait until lunch.

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      This picture HAS to be AI. The cheese wheels are getting progressively smaller. 2 cups of wine. The sauce bowl is barely bigger than a grape ñ. That purple sausage? in the middle looks like a turd. The pickles in the edge are even smaller than the grapes. Sausage baked into pound cake for breakfast seems odd.

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        The cheese wheels are getting progressively smaller

        Different cheeses are different sizes. I’m no cheese master but I think it’s a comté, a brie, and a Camembert in order of size.

        2 cups of wine

        Two glasses for two people? You share a cheese plate. We aren’t selfish fat idiots in Europe.

        The sauce bowl is barely bigger than a grape

        What do you mean, its almost the size of all the grapes together? We don’t drown all our food in gallons of sauce like mad men. The food itself actually has taste opposed to whatever McD serves for breakfast.

        That purple sausage

        Look up a Saucisse Sèche d’Auvergne. They do look like that.

        The pickles in the edge are even smaller than the grapes.

        It’s cornichons. They are that small.

        Sausage baked into pound cake for breakfast seems odd

        It’s bread. Not cake. Bread and sausage is extremely common together. I’m not French and haven’t seen this variation but in and of itself this would be a stupid indicator of AI.

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          Independent of whether this is AI or not, this is how such plates look like. It’s sad if that is so far out of someone’s reality they have to call the AI card.

          No offense. I’m sending this from a place where a meal like this would unfortunately cost me at least 5 of my kidneys 🥹

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    On the “Europeans” side that’s at least 2 decades out of date.

    The expresso coffee part is still true in a good part of Europe, but pretty much everywhere in it nowadays only a small fraction of people smoke and even those who do can’t actually do it inside a coffee shop because they’re not allowed to smoke there anymore, which spoils a great deal of the enjoyment of having a morning coffee.

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      I live in Germany and work with Turks, Poles, Ukrainians, Romanians, a Greek and a Slovenian. This meme is accurate for all of us. Weekends are a different story of course but in my experience this is indeed the true business day continental breakfast.

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      Is it? I was just in London a couple months ago, the amount of people smoking and vaping there was honestly shocking.

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        I grew up in the 1980s and trust me it’s a microscopic fraction of what it used to be. You used to be able to cut blocks out of the air. If you sat at the back of a cinema you would be lucky if you were able to see the screen through all the haze. That’s all gone now.

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        As a fraction of the total it’s still a small percentage, unless things changed a lot in the 5 years since I moved out of there.

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      Yes, but not in the balkans. Went to Bosnia and was served an espresso and a cigarette as an addition to breakfast. It was even on the menu. I should mention that i only asked for a coffee.

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        It was a culture shock that you can smoke indoors there, especially since I hate smoking.

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      While we’re shitting on breakfast culture in Europe I think that Italians have the worst. They have messed up daily rhythm (siesta and then dinner late in the evening)… Actually no, that’s not an excuse. They have garbage breakfast culture, period.

      Literally everyone else’s breakfasts are awesome.

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            Scrambled eggs or pancakes are the limit of the imagination I’ve seen from Italian restaurants. But most places have pastry or some variation of a sandwich that’s going to be mostly bread.

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            Stayed in Rome and Florence for a week. The only breakfast stuff we found were indeed either sweet pastries or biscuits, accompanied by fruit and cheese.

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        1. Siesta is NOT Italian

        2. what do you mean “garbage breakfast”? Tell me what do you think most of Italians eat at breakfast

        3. Dinner late in the evening is not on the entire penisula

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        Siesta is barely a thing in Italy any more unless you’re like 70+ and rural lol. But a brioche stuffed with ice-cream is the king of breakfasts what are you on about

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          Granted, I know Italy only from a tourist perspective.

          Every damn restaurant closes in the summer in the middle of the day. So do many shops.

          Italy rarely have breakfast restaurants - or at least what I’d consider a breakfast restaurant. Some variations of a premade ready to go sandwich ain’t it. And the good places ain’t open in the morning, but rather during brunch hours and serve brunch/lunch more than breakfast.

          brioche stuffed with ice-cream

          I know you’re joking. You’re kidding, right? :)

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            Sicilian ice cream sandwiches are a real thing and they are basically the best thing that’s ever happened to breakfast cuisine

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    Lived in Europe my whole life and never seen anyone pair coffee and cigarettes as part of their breakfast

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      I know it as Greek Breakfast.

      It can be enjoyed anywhere or any time, but it’s best served on a balcony in underwear. Greece happens to be a good place to get it in the morning all year round.

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          I smoked coffee on a field trip to Quebec in the 8th grade. I somehow was able to buy a bowl, and we had nothing to smoke so put coffee in it and put it up in our hotel room. Set off smoke detector. Broke the coffee pot. It was a real mess.

          The eighth grade French classes no longer take field trips to Quebec. This was only a small reason why. Co-ed 13 and 14-year-olds on six hour bus rides, two nights in hotels essentially unsupervised. This was the 2000-2001 school year. What a time to be alive.

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      In my experience that very much depends on the part of Europe you’re in: the “expresso in the morning” thing is mostly common in Southern Europe and France and back in the day when smoking was much more common and was actually allowed indoors in public venues, people having a ciggy and a morning coffee at a cafe was a pretty common sight.

      Places in Europe without the whole tradition of coffee places serving expressos never really had this kind of “breakfast”.

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      Coffee and sweet pastry, or just coffee is something I commonly saw in Italy (and only Italy)

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      Then you have clearly done something wrong, just this morning as I stepped out the train at 5 there was a guy with blue collar clothes, cigarette + energy drink. Fast forward one hour and saw a construction worker with a large coffee, cigarette and croissant. This was in rural Switzerland, but I think its even more common in the cities.

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        Not sure it’s wrong to be surrounded by healthy people. Maybe it’s just older generations doing that

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    This is also the reason why Metamucil doesn’t sell in Europe. Seriously: just looking at the left picture gives me constipation.

    (I understand that the pic is a joke, but anyone who has a coffee and a fag after breakfast can attest to their wonderful laxative powers.)

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      Europe consists of extreamly different countries… Breakfast in Sweden is completely different from breakfast in Italy.

      So not sure about what any european stats actually mean… Also tons of immigration from the middle east where people are not slim.

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        Europe is fat because of immigrants? LOL

        Italy is the thinnest or one of the thinnest (depending on the year and the specific study) countries in Europe and it’s still too fat and getting fatter.

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          I asked chat gpt about this since my own experience is definently that immigrants (from middle east) are usually not slim.

          Here is a what it said:

          Yes — there is credible evidence that immigration has been associated with changes in obesity levels in Europe (and other high-income regions) over the past ~20 years, though causality is complex and effects vary by group. Here is a breakdown of what the research shows, the mechanisms, and important caveats.

          ✅ What the evidence shows

          A systematic review on migrants found: “migrants may arrive in new countries with a health advantage … but unhealthy weight gain in migrant populations may lead to similar or greater obesity risk compared with native populations 10-15 years after migration.”

          In Norwegian Institute of Public Health data: children (~8 years) with an immigrant background in Norway had higher prevalence of overweight/obesity than children with no immigrant background.

          A meta-analysis found among immigrants/refugees: overweight prevalence ~37%, obesity ~23% across studies.

          A study of pre-pregnancy obesity in immigrant vs non-immigrant women in Norway found that obesity increased in both groups over time; immigrant status did not protect against the upward trend.

          A study of immigrant adolescents in Spain found that prevalence of overweight + obesity among Latin-American immigrants was higher than that of Eastern-European immigrant adolescents; and higher than the native Spanish adolescents in one sample.

          🔍 Mechanisms and contributing factors

          Several plausible mechanisms by which immigration could influence obesity trends:

          Acculturation / lifestyle change: Migrants from countries with lower obesity prevalence may adopt host-country dietary patterns (often higher in processed food, sugar, fat) and sedentary behaviours over time.

          Socio-economic position (SEP): Many immigrant populations face lower SEP, which correlates with higher obesity risk in many high-income countries. However, in the Norwegian children study parental education (a SEP proxy) did not fully explain the higher obesity prevalence among immigrant background children.

          Pre-migration exposure + selection: Some migrants come from countries with rising obesity rates; previous exposures may carry risk. The migration “selection” effect (healthier people migrating) may diminish over time.

          Time since migration: The evidence suggests obesity risk rises with length of residency in the host country.

          Cultural, environmental, built-environment factors: Access to healthy food, physical activity environments, language/cultural barriers in health promotion can affect immigrant populations disproportionately.

          ⚠️ Important caveats & limitations

          The research often focuses on immigrant groups specifically, not purely on the national obesity rate aggregated across all residents. So linking immigration → national obesity rate rise requires caution (there are many confounders).

          Longitudinal, causally-attributed studies are fewer. Many are cross-sectional (immigrant vs non-immigrant at one time).

          Variation across origin country, host country, generation (first vs second), gender, age-group is large. Immigrants from some regions show higher risk than others.

          The effect size attributable to immigration, compared to other drivers (e.g., general diet change, sedentary lifestyle, macro socioeconomic trends) is unclear. For example, the study of France/Spain found that most of the difference in overweight between immigrants and natives was due to “coefficients” (i.e., unobserved factors) rather than observable characteristics.

          Data for the 20-year span in some places is limited.

          📋 Summary statement

          Immigration into European/high-income countries is associated with higher obesity risk in immigrant sub-populations and may contribute to national obesity trends — especially via lifestyle change, socio-economic disadvantage, and acculturation effects. But immigration is one of many interacting factors; it is not the sole or dominant driver of the obesity rise in Europe.

          If you like, I can check quantitatively how much of the obesity rise in specific European countries can be statistically attributed to immigration (versus other factors).

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          I routinely see north Africans in my local Lidl buying half a cart of flour packets.

          Your diet being mainly refined carbs is not exactly good for being fit.

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            There aren’t nearly enough MENA or sub-saharan african immigrants to explain Europe’s surging overweight- and obesity-rates. And IDK what kinds of people you are seeing, most MENA people I see here in Germany are thinner than the average German.

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            You and me both. Certain areas and shops feel like middle east over here. :) But the Lemmy audience doesnt like those opinions. Its the truth though.

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        Right. And Alabama and Massachusetts are basically the same place.

        It’s amazing to me how folks group states together.

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          Alabama and Massachusetts are definitely a lot closer culturally than Sweden and Italy