• TVA@thebrainbin.org
        19·
        11 days ago

        I honestly have no idea how WaterWorld was not a huge hit, I loved that movie … I’m also very afraid to re-watch it since I haven’t seen it in quite a while.

        • Alex@lemmy.ml
          12·
          11 days ago

          It was a pretty big hit at the time but the production costs got so out of control I don’t think it made it’s money back. I’m sure in the long run it’s done ok.

          • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
            1·
            9 days ago

            Eh…it may have made money, but even back then it was panned as a huge misfire, and probably hurt Costner’s career for a while. There’s a reason it’s Sam’s favorite movie in Generation V. The kid who’s been held in psychiatric prisons his whole life.

        • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          3·
          10 days ago

          It is very entertaining. And universal created a live action show at their theme park in Hollywood based on it, that’s still running.

    • rammer@sopuli.xyz
      7·
      11 days ago

      The postman was good. Sure it’s a generic post-apocalyptic romp with a positive message. But I liked it.

          • chocrates@piefed.worldEnglish
            7·
            10 days ago

            I think I’m confusing two scenes. One where the women and girl are effectively at Kostner’s mercy and she offers herself to him so they don’t get thrown over board. I -think- he turns her down and then there is a consensual act later.

            Probably I was getting confused with blade runner.

    • TVA@thebrainbin.org
      181·
      11 days ago

      This is mine too!

      It’s absolutely INSANE, nothing like the games and somehow it still works in a weird way for me - and somehow still manages to show more love/respect to the source material than some other adaptations I’ve seen (even while being nothing like the source material)!

      For anyone that hasn’t looked into the behind the scenes of this movie, you NEED to!

      The crew openly wore custom made shirts shitting on the directors, the actors were drunk most of the time, Leguizamo had his leg broken on set! … Haskins was stabbed FOUR times, electrocuted, drowned AND had his finger broken [anytime you see him holding something over his hand, it’s likely because he was hiding the cast]! Mario Mario had a lot of reasons to be so grumpy!

    • Echinoderm@aussie.zoneEnglish
      5·
      11 days ago

      This is mine too. It’s a cute, fun movie. Yes completely over-the-top stupid, but that’s part of the enjoyment. I think a reason I liked it when everyone else seemed to hate it was that I didn’t have a Nintendo as a kid, so I wasn’t saddled with an expectation of what Mario should be.

    • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
      2·
      10 days ago

      So far ahead of the curve with the Isekai Sci-Fi Dystopia…

      I always bring this one up in the “so bad it’s good” conversations

    • Tehhund@lemmy.worldEnglish
      20·
      11 days ago

      I will die on this hill: Dude, Where’s My Car is actually a good movie. People just can’t see past the premise to realize it’s executed extremely well.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      11 days ago

      We got free tickets when we went to go see Shaft and the film burned in the middle and they had to splice it together to get it going. We lost some dialogue at the Palmieri house but no action. Win-win.

      We spent the free tickets to see Dude, and I still want my money back. And yes, I still reference the quotes whenever I can while I hate the movie, since while I’m a snob I’m also a deep nerd and must quote everything.

  • Pronell@lemmy.world
    37·
    11 days ago

    Hudson Hawk, Bruce Willis’ longtime passion project where he and Danny Aiello play singing cat burglars.

    I genuinely love it despite it not being very good at all. Saw it in the theater knowing nothing at all about it.

  • Ashtear@piefed.socialEnglish
    381·
    11 days ago

    TRON: Legacy, although “terrible” might be bit harsh on it. I first watched the movie when I had a fever of 103 and it was perfect for that.

    All-time great movie soundtrack, though.

        • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
          4·
          10 days ago

          Oh it’s bad. You’ll guess the main plot about two minutes in and it never waves from that. The movie ends and you won’t remember anyone’s names or even what most of them look like.

          Great music video though. Watch with a good sound system and a big OLED TV. The experience on a little phone or laptop screen with tinny speakers is going to be a 1/10.

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        11 days ago

        Very entertaining.

        A little short on Olivia Wilde, though, which was an amazing feature of Legacy.

    • GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip
      3·
      10 days ago

      I wouldn’t call it arguably terrible. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea but it’s decent movie. Not great, but decent.

      And since Tron Jared Leto lowered the bar, it looks even better.

  • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
    30·
    10 days ago

    Street Fighter

    It’s terrible. Almost nobody can act. I suspect none of the writers had even looked at the game beyond a few screenshots. The script and plot are laughable.

    But then Raul Julia shows up. He knows this is crap. But his kids love the games. He’s literally dying of stomach cancer in every scene. He knows this is his last movie. He’s going to fucking enjoy it, and so are you.

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      17·
      11 days ago

      What’s objectively terrible about Tremors?

      The TV series and movies beyond the third one are objectively terrible. But the first two are solid films and the third one is good for a laugh.

      • be_gt@feddit.nu
        2·
        10 days ago

        I mean that I like it, but when showing coworkers or friends very few seem to think it is any good. It is now old enough for a cult following so it has got that going for it.

      • splashgarden@lemmy.zip
        1·
        8 days ago

        I was not prepared for how incredibly boring Birdemic would be. The second half is hilarious but the first half drags impossibly long. For a movie about birds killing people, the birds don’t even show up until I think 47 minutes of this maybe 80 minute movie? I mean there’s the occasional laugh in the first half. That poster that was just a piece of printed paper taped to a wall with Yoko Ono’s website URL right next to that couple making out. I quote “she’s my hot Ferrari” on occasion. But it just wasn’t enough to justify half the movie being a romcom starring the most uncomfortable writing I’ve ever witnessed in film 😭 The director said he wanted this to be a “romantic thriller” but I’m not sure if he understood that you can tie two genres together at once…

    • maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zoneEnglish
      4·
      9 days ago

      I wouldn’t describe The Core as a trainwreck. The premise is the dumbest shit imaginable but somehow they managed to make an enjoyable film. The cast is great. It makes for a solid background movie to help you get though house chores or other menial work.

  • [deleted]@piefed.worldEnglish
    19·
    11 days ago

    Apparently Van Helsing (2004) was critically panned and most people think it is bad but I will watch it every few years and find it very entertaining.

  • fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org
    19·
    11 days ago

    Matrix Reloaded.

    Actually, people didn’t like both Reloaded and Revolutions. I think with what the lore was going with, they served the series right. I just think people had a hard time following what they were about.

    I can’t defend Resurrections though.

    • rozodru@piefed.socialEnglish
      17·
      11 days ago

      I think the issue with the sequels was there was quite a bit of lore to consume and you honestly didn’t get the full picture if you only watched reloaded and resurrections.

      What I mean by this is that the Wachowskis were very much involved in pretty much everything that involved the matrix be it the animatrix, the video games, or the comics and encyclopedia. So with the sequels in particular if you wanted to at least try and get a grasp on what was happening you pretty much had to watch at least the first 3 shorts of the Animatrix and especially “Kids Story” and play Enter The Matrix as they were all official canon and in many cases important to the story. So I mean unless you were a die hard Matrix fan you probably weren’t going to watch the animatrix or play the game then you might be left in the dark.

      Like for example the “Kid” that is introduced in reloaded. He makes a big deal out of being saved to which Neo, says twice, that he didn’t save him and that the kid saved himself. It’s not expanded on in the movies. So you’re thinking “ok…maybe Neo is doubting his nature of being the one” but we know he isn’t as he openly flaunts his power within the Matrix. It’s not until you watch the Animatrix Short “Kids Story” which explains WHY Neo says that Kid saved himself and then it opens up an entire can of worms that actually helps you understand the ending of Reloaded and Revolutions. Kids Story is so damn pivotal to the overall lore of the Matrix and most people have never even seen nor heard of it.

      I’m not even joking. The Animatrix is absolutely a must watch if you want to understand the Matrix movies.

      As far as Resurrections goes…yeah it didn’t serve a purpose other than Lana utilizing it as a form to cope with her parents deaths and to at least have a bit of control over her series as Warner Brothers was going to move forward with a sequel regardless if she and/or sister were involved or not. And again it’s another part of the overall lore which you won’t truly get unless you played The Matrix Online as it borrows quite a few elements/plot points from that. But the story itself is by far the weakest out of all of them as it simply didn’t need to happen. like, at all. And even by the end of the movie you realize this because absolutely NOTHING changes. Nothing. No one wins, no one loses, things don’t change. Everything is the exact same except Neo and Trinity are awake instead of sleeping. that’s it.

      • fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org
        9·
        11 days ago

        I won’t disagree that the Wachowskis had a weird way of piecing together the story. Not to mention, all of this stuff was released in one year which is impressive but also made things very convoluted.

        • rozodru@piefed.socialEnglish
          7·
          11 days ago

          exactly. And keep it mind it was ALL released within like a week or two of Reloaded. I was working at Best Buy when the sequel came out so I remember. Animatrix if I remember correctly literally released a few days prior to Reloaded. Hell I think Enter The Matrix released the exact same day.

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      4·
      11 days ago

      Reloaded and Revolutions was one of those cases where a movie was so huge that they decided to make two sequels back to back.

      The first movie would sometimes dip into weird metaphysics but it kept to its theme enough to remain in your head. It’s a fairly straightforward monomyth hero’s journey plot with themes of destiny versus agency.

      The sequels were crammed full of pointless “lots of shit happens on screen” action scenes and pseudophilosophic drivel.

    • sik0fewl@piefed.caEnglish
      3·
      11 days ago

      I didn’t hate Reloaded, but Revolutions made me retroactively not care for it. It’s still a fun watch, though, although I’d never go out of my way.

    • Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world
      2·
      11 days ago

      I liked reloaded and revolutions even on first viewing, but I didn’t need them to feel the same way the first matrix movie felt in order to consider them good. Like, The Matrix stood out from pretty much every other movie I had seen before. You don’t get that a second time right away, especially from another movie of the same type about the same thing. They continued and closed the story very well, but none of them were an origin story, and origin stories are pretty much always more awesome than the other movies in the same series, no matter what order they are made in.

      The Matrix was unfollowable, and they managed to follow it ok. They were always gonna be worse in comparison, but they aren’t actually bad.

      I haven’t seen Resurrections, not for any particular reason, just keep forgetting anytime I do manage to remember it, before I remember it long enough to see it.

      • Couldbealeotard@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        10 days ago

        Can you clarify what you mean about origin stories?

        Are you saying you like origin story movies? Especially ones that are released as a prequel to another movie?

        I think origin movies generally suck, and I thought that was the common sentiment. Origin stories are a waste of screen time.

        • Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world
          2·
          10 days ago

          Origin stories tend to resonate with people, it’s basically “how did this person go from being a normal everyday nobody, to one of the most powerful people in the universe” and, if done right, you can empathize with their journey.

          Some origin movies maybe suck at that, but that is them squandering an opportunity, you get alot of potential baked-in just from the concept alone.

          The Matrix was maybe one of the most successful uses of an origin arc, but most origin movies have a similar free boost, whether the rest of the movie supports and earns that boost is up to them. But many still do.

          • Couldbealeotard@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            9 days ago

            Oh, I think we are talking about different things. I wouldn’t call the matrix an origin film. I would call something an origin film if it takes a pre-established character and tells a story of how they became that character. Batman Begins and Solo would qualify for that, whereas The Matrix is just a original story. They tend to be lazy story writing and spend time ticking off the boxes of things the audience recognises. Then half of them include a clunky way to come up the the characters name or title drop.

            • Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world
              2·
              9 days ago

              Ah, well there is an official classification, that is what I am going by. An origin story can still be called an origin story even if it’s the first story, if it follows the origin story format. If however the first story doesn’t follow the origin story format, then it isn’t an origin story even if it’s the first story.

              An origin story is named that based on what happens in it, it doesn’t have to be a pre-quel to qualify.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
      21·
      11 days ago

      I can’t defend Resurrections though.

      I can. It was a great flick. They were in it to milk one more payday out of it, but I still enjoyed where it went.

      In contrast, I felt Rel and Rev were a bad Aliens2 to Matrix’s Alien. Full of action, none of the pacing. The wachowskis should’ve hit up the writer who wrote the stolen Matrix manuscript for a sequel instead, but they woulda had to pay her.

  • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
    18·
    11 days ago

    If I love it I objectively think its good. There are quite a few that people think were bad and most bombed hard and I loved them here goes one.

    Hudson Hawk: Sandra Bernhard and Richard Grant were the most over the top bad guys. They were having a great time being that. The whole cast was just playing it like it was a blast to be there.